The GOP is Wasting Valuable Time on a Terrible Healthcare Bill, Repeating Obama's Mistake

The GOP is Wasting Valuable Time on a Terrible Healthcare Bill, Repeating Obama’s Mistake

Barack Obama came into office promising to sign a universal healthcare bill. Despite PolitiFact labeling the Affordable Care Act (aka the ACA, aka Obamacare) bill that was eventually signed by Obama a “compromise,” the fact is he failed in that regard. It’s not a universal healthcare bill, it’s unwieldy, and despite one popular provision resonating with the populace (preexisting conditions no longer being allowed to keep you from getting health insurance), there’s at least six terrible aspects to go along with it. But I’m not really here to talk about Obamacare itself.

Instead, I want to talk about the process.

Obama and the Democrats wasted a solid year on healthcare and ended up with an unpopular bill passed on a party-line vote that cost them the House of Representatives for the rest of Obama’s time in office. Other priorities went by the wayside. Even though there was still time left after passing the ACA, it was an election year. In case you don’t know already, passing big bills in an election year absent a real national crisis is notoriously difficult. Politicians are averse to it, and Washington being what it is, there are numerous ways for enemies to run out the clock.

Unfortunately, the Republicans seem to be headed down the exact same path as early Obama-era Democrats

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) said House Republicans’ plan to repeal and replace ObamaCare will need a lot of work to be approved in the upper chamber.

“The bill probably can be fixed, but it’s going to take a lot of carpentry on that framework,” Cotton said on ABC’s “This Week.”

Cotton said the bill as it is cannot pass the Senate, adding that it would have “adverse consequences for millions of Americans.”

He then issued a message to members in the House.

“Do not walk the plank and vote for a bill that cannot pass the Senate and then have to face the consequences of that vote,” Cotton said.

He suggested the House take a “pause.”

“I’m afraid that if they vote for this bill, they’re going to put the House majority at risk next year,” he said.

I would be shocked if this bill actually makes it through Congress before January. The whole thing should be scrapped in its entirety while a new plan is worked on for late summer introduction. In the meantime, immigration, infrastructure, and tax reform could all be tackled. Hell, just focusing on immigration would be fine with me, since that’s one of the main reasons Trump got elected president in the first place. Chuck Schumer is already making noise about stopping the wall.

That cannot be allowed to happen.

I’m afraid that if the GOP doesn’t get their act together soon, that’s exactly what’s going to come to pass. I’m not saying drop healthcare reform altogether. That’s not the answer. This current effort needs to be rethought, though. It’s heading for disaster and even if this shitty bill does get passed in the end, most of Trump’s political capital will have been wasted on it.

Ethan Ralph

Founder, Owner, & Editor-in-Chief of TheRalphRetort.com. Political fiend, gamer, & anti-bullshit.

  • Maintenance Renegade

    Repeal it full stop and provide a tax break for having health insurance, this isn’t rocket science. The people who would end up stripped of health insurance under that scenario were never going to vote republican anyway.

    • Quise

      This comment says so much about modern “conservatives” I can’t even take it. This is too good…..

    • ExiledV2

      Agreed. The only people who can’t afford it are poors. How do you become a poor? By being liberal.

      • Maintenance Renegade

        Or sometimes the other way around but I’d use “socialist” or “prog” over liberal because these people aren’t liberals and there isn’t really a proper liberal party to be found in the West anymore. Just the same, anyone who’s dependent on Obamacare is certainly going to be an advocate of the welfare/nanny state and therefore not in our bloc and never will be in our bloc.

        Frankly this prog idea that healthcare is some sort of basic human right needs to be openly confronted in discourse more often. The truth of the matter is that our society produces a certain number of people who are not only completely useless loads but always will be completely useless loads and expending resources on keeping them alive is asinine.

        • Quise

          And people say the alt-right is filled with sociopaths and idiots!

        • ExiledV2

          “Or sometimes the other way around but I’d use “socialist” or “prog” over liberal because these people aren’t liberals and there isn’t really a proper liberal party to be found in the West anymore”

          All liberalism is socialism, period.
          If you are not 100% conservative, you are some type of liberal. Yes, even “libertarians”, who are really “liberaltarians”. See Russell Kirk.

          ” The truth of the matter is that our society produces a certain number of people who are not only completely useless loads but always will be completely useless loads and expending resources on keeping them alive is asinine.”

          Correct, which is why I support further automation/mechanization, the elimination of manual labor, and the elimination of poors.

          • Typical

            How is being libertarian being liberal, it’s actually box C – none of the above. I want to be free with my life liberty and property, while letting those who can’t take care of themselves die, it’s not something either side likes.

          • ExiledV2

            First, read “Libertarians: The Chirping Sectaries”, by the father of modern conservatism, Russell Kirk: http://www.mmisi.org/ma/25_04/kirk.pdf

            Second, look at their positions on social issues. A couple of examples: Drug legalization? Liberal. Conservatives do not indulge in drugs, nor do they want them legalized. Positions on homogays? Also liberal. No conservative would allow perversions of the natural order of things to be legalized. Frankly, being “socially liberal” is being, sorry, LIBERAL.

            A conservative is both fiscally conservative and socially conservative. Anything that is not both fiscally conservative and socially conservative is by definition liberal, no matter what moniker you want to put on it.

            Libertarians are just anarcho-capitalists punks in suits instead of mohawks.

          • Typical

            So you admit the only difference between lib and conservatives is about which brand of chains they want to enslave you with, good to know. Glad I’m not a conservative then since I don’t want to tell others how they should live. Must be an awful big opinion you have of yourself that you want to control other people’s private behaviors. Sad, but self important.

          • ExiledV2

            Conservatism has ten principles to adhere to. I will summarize them for you and give you a link to where you can read more about them. It’s up to you if you’re a conservative or some type of liberal. I don’t make that choice for you.

            1) The conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order.
            2) The conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity.
            3) Conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription, that is, of things established by immemorial usage, so that the mind of man runneth not to the contrary.
            4) Conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence.
            5) Conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety.
            6) Conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability.
            7) Conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked.
            8) Conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism.
            9) The conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions.
            10) The thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society.

            Further information: http://www.kirkcenter.org/index.php/detail/ten-conservative-principles/

          • Typical

            Libetarianism only has one: Don’t force people to do stuff. IT’s cute though that you think you have some kind of market cornered on morality that allows you to suspend your own laws against, say murder, as long as the court of you has decided that murder is less of a crime than the one committed by the person you’re punishing with “just murder.”

            I prefer to not worry about what others do if it isn’t affecting me somehow. You on the other hand don’t think others should be doing stuff you find unappealing, and should be coerced through threats of violence to cease.

            Sounds like the justification of every bloodthirsty dictator ever, but what do I know, I just want people to be left alone.

          • ExiledV2

            “Libetarianism only has one: Don’t force people to do stuff.”

            Right, so when a 30-year-old man has a “consenting relationship” with an 8-year-old boy, it’s totes OK because no one was forced. Got it.

            “but what do I know, I just want people to be left alone.”

            What you fail to realize is that without being a Godly and moral people, you will never be left alone since there are no controls or restrictions on what people will do. Without force of law and the strictures of morality, it would be the Land of Do-As-You-Please.

            Lovecraft said it best – “The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as
            the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws
            and morals thrown aside and all men SHOUTING and KILLING and REVELLING in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout
            and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame
            with a holocaust of ECSTASY and FREEDOM.”

          • Typical

            If we’re going to misrepresent beliefs then it’s fair for me to say you want to round up fags and put them in camps.

            I have no obligation whatsoever to subscribe to your retarded “moral” beliefs, that’s where you conservatards don’t realize you’re just as tyrannical as the libtards who want to enforce speech codes. You go ahead and show me where any libertarian ever has advocated pedophilia and we can continue, otherwise you’ve just proven your ideas can’t stand up to scrutiny because you have to resort to untruths and gross mischaracterization to defend them.

          • ExiledV2

            “If we’re going to misrepresent beliefs then it’s fair for me to say you want to round up fags and put them in camps.”

            If it is necessary in order to maintain Western culture, which is Christian and moral in nature, then I would do that. Personally, I don’t think anything but mental health therapy to cure their homosexual mental disorder is really necessary to contain the issues. The only reason homosexuality was removed from the DSM was because due to liberal propaganda and lobbying. Those who cannot be cured do need to be institutionalized for their own good.

            “I have no obligation whatsoever to subscribe to your retarded “moral” beliefs,”

            As God gives us free will, correct. Please feel free to abandon Western Christian culture and embrace Muslamic sharia, atheist European liberalism/SJWism, or the Communism of China.

            “You go ahead and show me where any libertarian ever has advocated pedophilia and we can continue”

            Oh dear. You really don’t know, do you?

            * Walter Block, Senior Fellow of the Ludwig von Mises Institute
            (https://majority.fm/2015/02/11/211-sam-seder-v-walter-block-round-2/)
            * Lysander Spooner, the original libertarian advocate for pedophilia in ‘Vices are Not Crimes’, saying it is okay to lure kids with rewards to have sex.
            * Nathan D. Larson, libertarian and perennial governmental candidate in Virginia. Known as Tisane on Wikipedia, infamous for his essay advocating sex with children.

            Don’t you know that one of the platforms of libertarianism is the elimination of all age-of-consent laws as they are “government coercion” and prevent free association?

            “Also, fun fact, the laws of hammurabi predate the bible by a couple hundred years, “god” has no bearing on law.”

            And did the Sumerians survive? No, because their law was not based on Christianity.

            Freedom of speech? Christian in nature.
            Freedom of worship? Also Christian; Mohammedans would like to wipe you out, while Christians have always been tolerant and welcoming of peaceful peoples.
            Every freedom you cherish in American society comes directly from the natural rights provided by God. Deny it if you like; the Truth cannot be ignored.

          • Typical

            interesting your one link goes to page not found. Keep constructing straw men you can knock down. Age of consent is messed up when kids are being charged for pictures of themselves and relationships that are suddenly illegal if one turns 18. But that doesn’t concern me as much as your love of camps and psychological conditioning. I know you jesus fags are way into stripping free will from people that disagree with you, but looking at your comment history I also know you’re a troll, so really, there’s no gain in me continuing, as I won’t get you to have a jesus loving sperg out like I had hoped.

          • ExiledV2

            “interesting your one link goes to page not found. ”

            Sorry. Here is the corrected link: https://majority.fm/2015/02/11/211-sam-seder-v-walter-block-round-2/

            ” but looking at your comment history I also know you’re a troll”

            No, I am deadly serious.

          • Except that a week from now, the Libertarian Party of Virginia will be considering expelling me from the party, based on their allegations that I’m not a true libertarian. http://nathania.org/w/images/2/2a/Motion_to_Expel_Nathan_Larson_from_the_Libertarian_Party_of_Virginia.pdf

            Lysander Spooner was just citing the age of consent of his time, which was 10 years old. Most 19th-century Republicans and Democrats probably would’ve opposed raising it, because the goal of the AoC back then was solely to preserve a young woman’s value as a bride, not to protect her from psychological trauma (which is more of a 20th century concept).

  • Killshot

    Ethan I think you’re missing the bigger picture. You’re assuming it’s business as normal, that the Republican Congress is there to work with the president and that but for this distraction they’d be humming along the rest of the Trump agenda.

    Unfortunately the reality is that the Republican Congress is there to serve their donors and their donors want them to delay, disrupt and, eventually, impeach the meddlesome outsider. Paul Ryan is the point man toward this effort. Other actors, like McCain and Graham, are secondary. Paul Ryan is the cornerstone.

    And this is where the Trump/Bannon 4D chess comes in. From the Trump perspective, in order to advance legislatively, the Paul Ryan roadblock must be destroyed. So whereas Ryan views healthcare as the perfect legislative quagmire, Trump views it as a perfect opportunity to discredit Ryan. Game on.

    When the bill was announced Trump couldn’t reject it, as that would have ended the match in a draw. He couldn’t support it either, not enthusiastically, as that would have married him to the bill, effectively relieving Ryan of responsibility. Instead, he offered tepid support. Well played God Emperor. Ryan is now slowly sinking into his own quagmire while nobody, least of all Trump, is holding his hand.

    When the bill fails Ryan will drown all alone. Too bad. As they say, you can’t make a MAGA without breaking some cucks.

    Alt Right portal: nxx14.blogspot.com

    • Toastrider

      From your lips to God’s ears.

    • Quise

      Trump is a puppet who lacks the intellectual abilities to take part in anything beyond tweeting about himself. I love seeing your Trump worshiping cucks doing incredible mental gymnastics to convince yourselves that Trump is anything more than a big money oligarch. Rex Tillerson for SoS? Really? And you STILL think Trump gives on ounce of spit about the daily struggles of working Americans? Keep rationalizing, I’m laughing nonstop at this, and when the impeachment is done the cycle will be complete.

      • Typical

        Except, you’ll still be a poor crybaby loser whining people aren’t giving you free stuff, bitch.

  • earthallianceanon

    Today is a glorious day for our heroes at /v/gamergate voat have found the true sjw history of Kotakuinaction mod Pinkerbelle. Her true sjw history pre-gamergate that she whined to the reddit admins to bury:

    Bitch was trying to get people fired from their jobs one month before gamergate started

    http://archive.is/QSrlA

    Bitch fell for a 4chan hoax as a tumblrkun one month before gamergate started

    http://archive.is/QTtY9

    • Quise

      Amazing investigative work right here! We now know for sure that some nerd who spent all day dealing with children on a reddit blog isn’t exactly who they claimed to be! REDEMPTION!!!!

  • Quise

    The only people in Congress who are more cuckolded to big money interests (see INSURANCE PROVIDERS AND PHARM COMPANIES) than the DNC are the uneducated rednecks in the GoP. Don’t be surprised when your Mom can’t afford her treatments, Ralph. I wonder if experiencing bankruptcy because of a chronic illness will make you realize how asinine the Republican “healthcare plan” truly is?

    Probably not………

    • ExiledV2

      The only people who would be experiencing bankruptcy would be poors – and the way you become a poor is by liberal thinking and liberal actions. I sincerely doubt Ralph’s mother engages in liberalism and so she should have no problem with out-of-pocket expenses.

      • Quise

        This is incredibly, incredibly stupid. Even for theRalph’s readership, this is just incredibly dumb.I can’t help but laugh at the amazingly low level of thinking a comment like this must require, but it never stops being awe inspiring how dumb the Trump marks are.
        Oh and for those who actually live in the real world, you can be as obsessively “right wing” as you want to be, that doesn’t change the amount of greed that the American healthcare industry shows on a DAILY basis. As I said, ask Ralph once his mother’s dialysis costs go up how he feels about all this. You may have to wait until he gets out of jail for attacking police, but you should ask him. In 9-12 months.

        • ExiledV2

          “hat doesn’t change the amount of greed that the American healthcare industry shows on a DAILY basis”

          To quote Gordon Gekko, “Greed is good.” Yes, in CAPITALISM, one tries to extract as much profit as is possible from a situation. There’s nothing wrong with that.

          • Quise

            As I said, the idiots rule around these parts. Sadly, your fake posturing will not make you athletic, attractive or intelligent. Greed is NOT good when that greed destroys our water supply, prevents people from being educated or kills people who can’t afford overpriced medicines.

          • ExiledV2

            ” Sadly, your fake posturing will not make you athletic, attractive or intelligent.”

            I’m a successful corporate employee. I think that pretty much determines my intelligence right there. If I weren’t smart, I wouldn’t make money.

          • Typical

            It’s so funny, these crybaby losers always want to talk about fake posturing and whatnot, when they’re crying, and we are living well. If we didn’t have it good, we’d be whining online about how much stuff costs and people don’t pay their fair share.

          • Quise

            Yes, because being a “corporate employee” means that you’re incredibly intelligent.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
            Any retard can work an office job, and apparently any cunt can be president too. You’re clearly on the Autism spectrum so I’ll not make fun of you too bad, but you’re a genuine cunt.

          • Typical

            Wah wah, don’t be poor, loser, you won’t have to worry about it. It must suck to be such a loser that you have to cry for others to pay for your shit. Why not kill yourself?

          • Quise

            I think you missed my point you simple minded retard. I’m living well right now and make good money. My concern is for OTHERS, which is unheard of for fatass cunts who spout Trump talking points and think Ayn Rand is a great writer. We won’t have a country is all you socially handicapped neckbeards get your way. The true measure of a civilization is how it treats the least of their people.

  • ExiledV2

    This bill is the best thing possible, as it favors the corporations, which means it favors capitalism, which means it favors America. I also support the genetics bill (https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2017/0312/Why-a-House-bill-wants-workers-genetic-information) which will allow employers to determine which workers present an increased health cost in advance and thus eliminate them from the workforce. This is all a bonus. We need to get these poors out the damn door.

  • Splattergrunt

    They wasted precious time trying to repeal it instead of creating their own to replace it when they had a clear path to do so 😐