The Other Side Of The Story: Steve Tom Sawyer Faces The Music (UPDATE with Restraining Order)

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As you know, over the last couple days, we have taken a look at some ethical controversies surrounding Steve Tom Sawyer. I’ve withheld judgement on him so far, and I will do so again today. The reader can decide for themselves. I’ve spoken with one of the women in the video, and her story is very compelling. I will leave it for you to judge. I have 100% proof that this is from the women in question. I’ll leave this as to why they are not shown. If someone wants to question whether it’s from them or not, be my guest. You’re going to get embarrassed. Here’s a short quote from the woman in question:

“If this does escalate, we will have no problem stepping forward and revealing ourselves. But for the time being, we would like to stay anonymous. Thanks so much!”

Here is the rebuttal they provided. It could not possibly be more different that Sawyer’s account.

UPDATE: Sawyer DMCA’d the video in question off YouTube right before publication. I re-uploaded it on Daily Motion.B3mT5gcCMAASbWE

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BEGINNING OF WOMEN’S ACCOUNT

“Just to give some background on Steve’s relationship with said “girl.” Less than 3 weeks ago, Steve and GIRL met online through a dating
website. GIRL is a nurse and works long hours at a hospital, making dating very difficult. She meets Steve and is excited at the potential of a relationship. They hit it off on their first date. She then learns that Steve is in a sticky situation. He has been kicked out of his previous living situation where cops were involved.

GIRL is willing to help him with a temporary place to stay while he gets back on his feet. 3 days is all he said he would need, but ended up emotionally manipulating her into staying longer. He spoke of suicide, made her feel guilty, and said he “loved HER” (Again, at this point they have only known each other for a week). She knew something was not right and began seeing his true motives. GIRL asked him to give her space and leave her apartment peacefully. He repeatedly refused to leave. She has asked him multiple times to leave with no success.

Saturday night, GIRL was at her best friends apartment and vocalized to 3 of her closest friends that she is really worried for her safety with a guy she met online and who refuses to leave her apartment. She doesn’t want to involve the cops because he is a danger to himself and her safety, has suicidal thoughts, and is already down on his luck. She asked her friends for help and to devise a plan to get him out without involving authorities.

GIRL’s friends decided to go to the apartment and say they were having a sleepover there. They all asked him nicely to leave since it would be very uncomfortable for him to be there. He got extremely defensive, upset, and said that none of the girls had no right to ask him to leave.  Steve was refusing to leave, being uncooperative even after GIRL wanted him out, so the girlfriends stepped in to help.

Because Steve was being uncooperative, visibly outraged, defensive, he was beginning to pose a threat to the girls. He is an unwelcomed person that GIRL has just met online, and he WILL NOT leave. The girlfriends used reasonable force to get him out. No fists, no hitting, no slapping, no punching, no kicking, no weapons, no scratching. No physical harm was made. Assault? GIRL has the right to ask you to leave her apartment, which she has been doing, and Steve has repeatedly refused to.

Like she demanded, were you gone by the end of the day? No. You were still on her property with no intention to leave.

Nope. GIRL invited her best friends into her apartment to help remove Steve. The police were not involved because GIRL didn’t want to involve authorities because 1) Steve has tried to physically harm himself and refused to let GIRL call the cops and 2) Steve was already down on his luck and hit rock bottom, and she didn’t want to get him in trouble with the law.Selection_138

Steve does not pay rent there. The place is exclusively the GIRL’S apartment. She only offered him a temporary living situation (3 days) until he got back on his feet. And yes, the girlfriends did feel uncomfortable with Steve there. They were going to stay the night, and he is a strange man who GIRL met online and refused to leave.

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Steve is homeless and helpless. He has preyed on a nice girl for shelter and continuously refused to leave. He does not have the competency or ability to support himself or put a roof over his own head.He has not been able to provide anything to their “relationship” besides drama. Moving on.

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Absolutely. The girlfriends used reasonable force to get him to leave off the property where he was no longer welcomed. Again, no physical harm was done to Steve. He is a 6’2-6’3. He was extremely upset, defensive, uncooperative, and physically dominated the space. No fists or kicks were thrown. There was no intent to cause physical harm, just to remove an unwelcomed trespasser from the home that he DOES NOT PAY RENT AT.Selection_141

Steve, if your life was in real danger you should have called the cops. In fact, at one point you did say “I’m calling the cops” in which the girls insisted you do (since they were asked by GIRL to not). But interesting thing, Steve doesn’t. Even though he was being supposedly “assaulted.” Steve starts filming instead with his camera phone and flipped the “victim switch” on falsely pleading “Stop hurting me. Please. Stop.” He was lying for the camera.Selection_142

Precisely. He is homeless and his natural survival instinct is making him act out of desperation and fear. He was fighting to stay at the apartment that HE DOES NOT LIVE AT.

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Again, this is not his home. He does not live there. It was a temporary housing situation that was not supposed to extend past THREE DAYS until Steve got back on his face and figured things out. He does not own furniture there, pay rent/bills, have mail sent there, receive any services there, own a copy of the key, own a parking spot, or have anything there that would indicate he lives there.

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If he had evidence of the video assault, he should have taken that to the police immediately. He did not. He held on to the video and used it as leverage to stay there longer. To say at the SCENE OF ASSAULT where his safety was in danger. He threatened GIRL that he would release the video to NBC and press charges. He also asked the girl for additional money to keep silent.

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What is “GG”?

Ok, now that we established that “GG” stands for “#GamerGate”…what is #GamerGate? Online poker? Jumanji? Fantasy Football? Whatever game it is, the girls can assure you it is not “GG” related. Steve, how did you confirm this information?

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First off, get over yourself. They did not know there was anything worth googling. They didn’t even know your full name or about your Twitter until you started making threats to GIRL.Selection_149

Where is he getting this idea that the GIRL’s friends were Googling him? Is he someone famous? And why does he keep saying he is a misogynist? After multiple threats, the girls did in fact Google him, and discovered his Twitter! Which lead to discovering “itaniknight’s” extremely helpful chronological list of Steve’s tweets. Thank goodness for his list because Twitter is difficult to read!Selection_150

YESSS! EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS!! HE FINALLY GETS THE IDEA!!! Steve, you are unwelcomed at the GIRL’S apartment. In fact, you were trespassing after you refused to leave when asked multiple times. Why didn’t you? That’s right– you are homeless and are too busy working on blackmailing the GIRL and her friends, and getting hush money.Selection_151

Steve, you don’t have to wait until she gets off work to leave. You are at the scene of the alleged assault where you need to “get the fuck out…fast” (refer to previous tweet) because you are in danger. Go to a safe place– coffee shop, bus station, restaurant, police station, etc. You can “figure this out” there. But you never intended on leaving. You were working on manipulating GIRL with blackmail and threats.Selection_152

OK seriously. Stop with the #GamerGate. These stories are completely not related, and none of the girls have any idea what/who GamerGate is. Excuse their ignorance. Why does he keep tying the “assault” to GG? Is this a publicity stunt to get more attention to your story?Selection_153

KingofPOL, the video that you verified IS real? Then it should have been taken to the police immediately. Not used as leverage and blackmail to extend Steve’s stay at GIRL’s house where he was “assaulted.” You don’t know enough about the story to understand how “real” the situation is. You know Steve’s side, and I’m not sure he has been very honest with you, or with the entire Twitter universe for that matter.

Bottom line: Steve is homeless. He met GIRL on OKC two weeks prior. GIRL made a very poor and stupid judgement call to trust Steve and help him out. She needed help getting him to leave after he ignored her many times. She asked her friends for help because she didn’t to get cops involved again (Cops were involved when he was kicked out of his previous housing arrangement). He is faking an “assault” to get extended housing. He is confirming the incident is GG related to get attention.Selection_154

What is he talking about? What beliefs?!?! This is completely absurd.Selection_155

This is extremely frustrating. What is #GamerGate? What does it/he/she have to do with this situation? The girls didn’t see your Twitter until Monday (2 days after the “assault” What did they make up their mind about?Selection_156

Why does he keep bringing up misogyny?!?!? The girls don’t care!!!! The only concern they have is to get him out of HER place. He is an unwelcome trespasser who refuses to leave after many attempts to get him out.Selection_157

SO.EXTREMELY.FRUSTRATING. Why does he keep talking about GG?! That is not the issue here. And he knows it.Selection_158

EXACTLY. This is very good advice. Don’t play martyr. If you are in the right (which is not the case) the truth will come out, and justice will be served. If your “assault video” has real proof then you don’t need to worry, right? You can’t get bullied out of calling the police if you have real evidence.Selection_160

You were lying about being hurt in the video. They did the same. You had the camera out and were pretending to be a victim. They mimicked exactly what you were doing.Selection_161

Steve didn’t need donations because he was working on “hush money.”Selection_162

#GamerGatePros!!! “GG” is that you? We heard a lot about you. Nice to know that you actually exist.Selection_163

Steve, did you ever intend to file your statement to the LAPD? You were working on cutting a deal with the GIRL.Selection_164

On Monday night, the GIRL went straight to the police station and eventually Steve was removed from the apartment.Selection_165

Update: GIRL went to the Police Station on Monday after work to consult with an officer on next steps. A total of 5 officers had to come on site to finally get Steve to leave. He showed the officers the “assault” video with his legal advisor present, and the cops did not side with him. He has no case. Steve continued to contact GIRL, and even had his legal advisor/fake lawyer (no Bar number on record) repeatedly call/text GIRL. On Tuesday, GIRL filed for a restraining order and it was approved later that day.

The GIRL and friends filed a case but are not pressing charges. They understand that Steve is in a difficult situation and is homeless. Pressing charges on a homeless man won’t solve anything. They are just relieved that he is off the property and can’t get near GIRL within 100 feet without arrest.”

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UPDATE: The woman in question absolutely did not want to share this document. She told me so several times, although she always end each email with the clause that, if I thought it was necessary, they would give it to me, and let me release it. I told them that, unfortunately, I believed it was needed. The reason for that is, Steve Tom Sawyer is too much of a coward to come out, and admit that he deceived all of GamerGate with his original story. He continued to try to smear these women, and sent surrogates out to do his dirty work, because he’s too weak to come in here, and defend himself. Well, here it is. We welcome your response. 

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TheRalph

Founder, Owner, & Editor-in-Chief of TheRalphRetort.com. Political fiend, gamer, & anti-bullshit.

  • Trance

    I remember some time ago, that he was still on that website and he refused to discuss about GamerGate because “He’s a journalist” and he was supposed to be neutral about it, while shilling his shirts and the website for clicks on his article and forums .
    Now that he’s in trouble, and i feel sorry for him, he’s taking GG out of context for personal gain and i’m really NOT surprised that other shills are aboard this trainwreck.
    Fucking hell this is really depressing.

  • Mr. Greis

    Ugh, I feel terrible having taken his side. The only excuse I have is that shit like this happens a lot in Family Law. But, given the accounts and recent actions… I have to apologise to the girls involved.

    I’m very sorry.

    • raze2012

      Don’t feel bad. We took his word at face value, while waiting for further verification (especially after the KoP fallout). The verification is here now.

      I also agree with apologizing to the accused for any inconvenience, and thank them for not throwing the gavel at him (if he really is still down on his luck).

    • Timmy Carson

      you should idiot. It was so obvious

      • Gary Townsend

        oh do shutup Timmy its past your bed time.

        • Timmy Carson

          U mad cause you got taken in? Or are we still on Steve Sawyers side? Lulz and this looks so great for gamergate. Just beautiful

    • ragething

      dont feel bad. he’s a good guy being fucked over once again. these girls wanted to push him out while his GF stood by at 1am after paying rent. i was dissapointed in ralph for the first hit piece. his loyal friend must be very happy with this, however.

      • Mr.Meowgy

        You obviously don’t have your facts straight if you are referring the GIRL to Steve’s GF. they weren’t even dating for more than 2 weeks. GF? not even close. Rent?! what a joke.

        • Eagleeye595

          Can we please stop acting like we watched big brother, and we know exactly what went in inside that room from a 20second shit video please? we made this mistake in the first place and believed everything.

  • Captain Hero

    I’ve seen these situations too many times. I think Steve owes us an apology.

    • VinylSolution

      No, Leslie! Fuck Steve! He’s an opportunistic asshole! I say we cut him where he stands. It was out fault for trusting him to begin with. We listened and believed, and that was our mistake.

      • Timmy Carson

        It was so obvious still can’t believe he took so many people in. So many just wanted to believe that this was a anti gg assault. MORONS. Verify before you trust. Don’t listen and believe. Listen, verify and still take with a grain of salt.

  • theralyst

    lmao so he’s literally LW playing innocent puppy while being manipulative abuser

    • bazzar

      So do we have an LW4?

  • Erdrick X

    That’s messed up, glad Ralph is bringing us the other side of the story like a proper journalist. You know if something like this had happened on the aGG side they would’ve shut down all discussion and told everyone to listen and believe.

    • ragething

      ralph is good friends with a blogger at revuelabs who is out to assassinate his character. he never came to me or pol or anyone for comment. if you call this journalism, im a lemon.

      • Ghost

        And you’re good friends AND associates with said person he’s giving the other side to. Neither of you look very good here, buddy.

        • ragething

          except saying he didnt pay rent is a lie. he did. she gave him a cheque for the rent he had paid as a sorry. this is a character assassination. this guy has tried to drive a wedge between me and steve and i spotted it, now they wish to push him out of gamergate. raplph has not always done his research and this shows here that he isnt even interested. to say he is in any way “withholding judgement” is also a lie.

          • Brandon

            Maybe he should abandon the “Cosby strategy” and address the claims himself.

          • ragething

            if ralph was on the level, he could of asked any of us.

          • rudhvelyn

            Well your not really involved aside from being an associate with second hand knowledge of the incident and it sounds like people have being trying to talk to STS about this. Its seems he is just ignoring them

          • ragething

            he explained his whole situation on the open house. everyone missed that because there wasnt a massive shit storm on it. thats when it gets the attention, when there is something for people to eat their popcorn over. when he needed help, he got very little. I will only remember those that did help.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            He didn’t pay rent. He gave her $200 to contribute to his stay there–food, etc. That is hardly rent at a LA apartment. He then demand for the money back which the girl gladly gave (since she wanted him gone). She wrote him a check for $200 which he cashed immediately. How is that rent again?

          • Timmy Carson

            Regardless if he had a right to stay there he should have contacted the landlord or police. Instead of going on twitter like a professional victim.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            Agreed 100%. But Steve doesn’t have a landlord because he is homeless, and going to HER landlord wouldn’t help. HER landlord also helped her change the locks after 5 police got him to leave.

          • Timmy Carson

            Indeed he had no right to try and stay there when she wanted him gone.

          • ragething

            contacted the landlord and had her thrown out. he went on twitter looking for a place to live. people like you are the reason im done with GG.

          • http://TheRalphRetort.com/ TheRalphRetort.com

            There is a restraining order. I know it, and we will release it. Are you sure you want to go down this path?

          • Duke togo

            Please do.

          • Marcio #712

            Oh please fuck off! Sick and tired of this whiny bitches. You’re done with GG? Fucking great! We are stronger without you. If your dedication to the cause was so weak that some people doing something you don’t like is enough for you to leave you were never welcomed in the first place. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

          • Jimmy Park

            It’s better you aren’t associated with GG. It doesn’t need you, Steve or any of your like.

          • Benjamin Barber

            “to contribute to his stay there”, that sounds like rent, which sounds like tenacy. What was it he was paying for, assuming he is low income, his food should be paid for by the government.

            It doesn’t matter what the amount is or should be, if she accepted his money to stay there, she should have given him a 72 hour eviction notice to quit, not berate him and call the cops for trespassing.

            I have had assholes live in my house who’ve cost me thousands of dollars before, as well as have been on the side of losing my house because of nonpayment from my work. I know that the system sucks, but its a balance between the interests of all parties.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            Hey Ben, that is a great point you’re making as his legal advisor. They were loosely “dating” at the time and she accepted the $200 he offered to help with resources he was using after he extended his stay for past 3 days. But lets called it “rent” to help Steve’s case, not a single dime was taken for “rent” since Steve demanded his $200 back along with additional money to prevent from leaking the assault video. Yes good job Ben, it doesn’t matter what the amount is….that still does not mean that Steve lived there. They JUST met on OKC. He was crashing a couch way past what they agreed upon. He did NOT live there. It is not his apartment…not even partially. He is “claiming tenancy” at the GIRLS apartment where he is claiming he paid rent at and was assaulted out of leaving “his home.” If they were living together for 3 months and he was routinely paying rent, then this would be a different story. But bottomline, they didn’t even know each other for an entire month, let alone 3 months. THEY JUST MET ONLINE. She asked him to leave multiple times. He doesn’t because he is homeless. Cops were involved to evict him from HER apartment. As his legal advisor (and someone who has personally lost thousands of dollars, almost lost his home, and gone through a similar experience), are you in favor of “the assholes” or justice?

          • Benjamin Barber

            The thing about justice, is that its blind, and doesn’t care about “assholes” or “homeless”, or “just met online”. The fact of the matter is that if you live in a civil society, you’re expected to treat and be treated civilly. Had i been in her shoes, I would have given him a 72 hour eviction notice (in writing), then told him to leave after that notice.

            The problem with both her and steve, is partly an entitlement and special snowflake generation, where they want/expect things and aren’t considerate towards others. In my grandmothers generation she was staving off hunger by looking for potatoes, and these people will share the clothes off their back, (albeit while dropping nuclear bombs on populations).

            Think about which generation you have more respect for.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            Wait, what was she wanting and expecting that makes her entitled and inconsiderate to others? Besides Steve to leaver HER apartment. That is her home. She has asked him to leave so many times. She didn’t think she needed to write a formal eviction notice to a guys she just met online because it was her apartment. It’s sad. Now every time she lets a friend or potential guys she is dating sleepover, she needs to make sure they don’t claim tenancy after overstaying 3 days and get it in writing.

          • Eagleeye595

            What amazes me is how all the brave knights here, jump to the rescue of this lovely damsel in distress. Wasn’t she the one who brought a dude from some on line met place? to stay with her? Next time try dating people in the real world first, then bring em home for a quickie.

          • Eagleeye595

            Contribute to stay there? some people are fucking stupid. You give 1dollar to the one who owns the lease you’ve paid rent… 200$ is like 25% rent paid so yes he paid rent. And yes he was thrown out forcefully. And yes whoever is after him has a hard on for Steve. But that’s that now it’s over the judges are out and the verdict seems to be. We know you lied we are experts at this shit, oh wait no we’re not we were fooled once before, maybe twice now.

          • Timmy Carson

            And that video of that assault was just so brutal! How did he survive? He must have PTSD now

          • ragething

            even he said they didnt hurt him. but he was very upset as hes a bit of a gentle giant. enjoy your gossip. we’ll get on with doing something positive with our lives.

          • Timmy Carson

            Lulz he called it assault. How can you be assaulted if you weren’t hurt?

          • Marcus Dubious

            Also a homeowner has every right to use reasonable force to make a trespasser leave.
            They would have been in the right if they had physically picked him up and thrown his ass out of the door.

          • Eagleeye595

            There is physical and there is verbal and emotional assault. Al though tbh i don’t even know why that guy is wasting his time trying to reason with you. you’re 16 at best, all i have read from you from the very top is trolling.

          • Timmy Carson

            Like there is emotional rape? Lulz how very SJW like of you.

          • Eagleeye595

            Sure there is you dumb shit, and fucks like you are the reason it exists. And I’m no SJW but now I understand full well why they hate us so much, and why they lumped me in the same boat with fucking puke bags such as yourself. People like you should die at birth and save the world the trouble to suffer them.piss off now.

          • Timmy Carson

            Lulz u mad? Emotional rape is definitely BS SJW rhetoric. You’re just like the SJWs, thanks for proving my point.

          • Timmy Carson

            “Literally!”

          • Timmy Carson

            And in terms of doing something positive with your life I’d suggest getting a job. Send a few applications ol steve’s way as well.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            And “she gave him a cheque for the rent he had paid as a sorry” As a sorry? Think about what you’re saying! She has nothing to be sorry for. She wanted him gone. She wrote him a check because she didn’t him to use his $200 contribution to the household has another excuse to stay (on top of all his other excuses 1) homeless 2) suicidal 3) blackmail)

      • Eagleeye595

        That I believe that this was meant to assassinate, this was a personal vendetta from the very start, I can vouch for it. As far as what’s coming out to light however, I am not so sure Steve is innocent any more.

  • ragething

    ” I’ve withheld judgement on him so far, and I will do so again today.”

    doesnt sound like it as i read.

    • rudhvelyn

      That because the story is written by one of the girls not ralph

      • ragething

        “listen and believe”

        • pixel

          so what you are saying is “listen and believe” Steve OK THEN lol

  • SiliconNooB

    He sounds like a first class douche!

  • BeholdMyPower

    And this is why you must always VERIFY. Didn’t feel comfortable with any of this the way Steve was Twitter’ing the entire story instead of going straight to the authorities. It’s a damn shame this had to be exposed in this way.

  • MundaneMatt

    I know a thing or two about false dmca’s, and I can wholeheartedly say that they are a fucked up way of silencing someone.

    • raze2012

      o hai Matt. Love the new Look (or at least different, haven’t seen you post on discus before) !

      but yes, the DMCA only makes him look worse. You’d think anyone following GG would understand this and the Streisand effect by now…

      • MundaneMatt

        It is very real, and #GamerGate is a direct-fucking-result of it.

    • urwormfood

      Keep in mind this was a private video that was published without the owner’s consent. If someone took a private video of yours and posted it on their youtube page without your permission how would you handle that situation? Would you have the legal right to file a DMCA? Or be accused of filing a false DMCA? Just wondering on that aspect of this story, as the previous published stories have some suspect accusations. I like to hear all sides to things and will wait unbiased until then. Though it does seem suspicious on Steve’s part, I am not trying to poison the well until he can at least divulge his end.

      • Timmy Carson

        and you’re a idiot

        • urwormfood

          I know you are but what am I.

          • Timmy Carson

            Mmmmm victim monger? Hypocrite? Do you support the LWs victim-hood too?

          • urwormfood

            Please point out in what I wrote that supports any hypocritical victimhood. If you cannot that is fine, if you can please point it out.

          • Timmy Carson

            “If someone took a private video of yours and posted it on their youtube page without your permission how would you handle that situation?” Do you feel the same way about the quinnspiracy? Is Eron a piece of shit for what he did (hint he is)? Oh and imagine me repeating your words in a very whiny voice

          • urwormfood

            You forgot the rest: “Would you have the legal right to file a DMCA? Or be accused of filing a false DMCA? Just wondering on that aspect of this story” I am just asking questions about false DMCA claims… where is that anything to do with victimhood? Those are legitimate questions pertaining to DMCA filings. A voice tone is insufficient.

          • Timmy Carson

            You’re implying that he had every right to do that. Even if it’s in a passive spineless way. And again do you feel the same way about what Quinn did with taking Eron to court? Hmmmmm?

          • urwormfood

            I am asking Matt a DMCA question as he said “I know a thing or two about false dmca’s”….I did not imply anything but that part of the story. I could care less about any civil lawsuit between ZQ and her ex. How does that equate to a DMCA on a video? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

          • Timmy Carson

            It’s stopping private information from getting to the public. Basically an attempt to cover up. You implied he had the right to do that. So again are you against the publication of the quinnspiracy? Hmmmmmmmm?

          • urwormfood

            The private information was in the public for over 24-hours…free to download and mirror elsewhere. I am referring to claims of “false DMCA” filing. Does the owner of a private video have that right to file..yes or no? As far as a cover up, many are still wondering if this is the full video, or just a 20 second part. That is still a question not answered.

            Was the quinnspiracy a private video taken down by a DMCA claim on youtube? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

          • Duke togo

            For fuck sake, did you read his tweets? His twitter account seems like his private diary. For someone like him, there was no reason whatsoever to issue a DMCA take-down. Except maybe he had something to hide.

          • urwormfood

            I read all of his tweets for that day as well as days after. I told him to go to the police and also (jokingly) commented during the ongoing situation that it reminded me of a Russ Meyers film. I had and still have suspicions, not just with his actions but also all parties involved. I do not know why a DMCA was filed, was it false or not? I want the meat and potatoes…not just the side salad on this situation like most want and still have questions.

          • Timmy Carson

            Quinnspiracy was still private information. Which you have no problem with, but you snivel and suggest that he can file a DMCA on this to cover it up. Is the quinnsiracy the full interaction between the two? Hmmmmm? Thus you are a hypocrite.

          • urwormfood

            What form of private information? A “blog” about a relationship from 1 persons point of view about another. I am looking at the medium in it’s context. A question in general about anyone who has a video (this form of medium) and their right to file a DMCA claim. You keep referring to Quinn stuff.. I never even mentioned that until you brought it up as some sort of a red herring issue with a “video” DMCA claim. If E wants to post his thoughts and stuff on their relationship online to share the world in the “public” he can do so. If Quinn wants to file a “civil lawsuit” she has the choice or right as well. How long was that information open to the public to view before a different type of “Web host claim” was filed? What are the TOS claims violated and was that a “false takedown claim”?

            The only snivels and tin foil hat I see is from you and “cover-ups”. Nobody knows the reason why he filed a DMCA, that has yet to be given. All I am questioning and have been is it a “false DMCA” or does a person (any person) have the right to file a claim on a youtube video that is private per that sites TOS. Hmmmmmmm?

            Do you believe all private information should be public? Are you a hypocrite as well if you do not believe that? Some…most…all or nothing.

            Again to address the “cover up theory” is this the full video? Do you know if it is?

          • Timmy Carson

            TLDR you’ve been outed as a hypocrite.

          • urwormfood

            Really… you still have not pointed to where. Try again and point to any victimhood hypocrisy.

          • Timmy Carson

            Already did, hypocrite.

          • urwormfood

            Where.

          • Timmy Carson

            Previous comments, hypocrite

          • urwormfood

            Kindly point them out.

          • Timmy Carson

            Be a big boy and figure it out, hypocrite

          • urwormfood

            I do not see any any victimhood hypocrisy. All I see is questions on what make a false DMCA claim valid. Is it fair use even if a persons video is private? I can understand if you are unable to point out victimhood issues.

          • Timmy Carson

            Wrong, try again hypocrite.

          • urwormfood

            Correct, try again and point to the victimhood issues.

          • Timmy Carson

            Make me, hypocrite

          • urwormfood

            Make you suffer from victimhood issues?

          • Timmy Carson

            Try again, hypocrite

          • urwormfood

            Do you want me to check “my privilege” before you can you suffer from victimhood issues?

          • Timmy Carson

            Nope check your SJW like self rightousness, hypocrite

          • http://encyclopediadramatica.se/ Encyclopedia Dramatica

            Timmy you are a moron. He/She asked a valid question and you are acting like a fucking 3 year old.

          • Timmy Carson

            U mad? Not as big a moron as idiots that supported this shit stain. Go weep over losing your one beloved “assault victim”

          • David Fitzsimmons

            I personally see a troll pointlessly baiting you and enjoying the clear and obvious frustration you are feeding it.

            Remember kids, only YOU can keep the trolls under their bridges! Ignore, ignore, and ignore!

          • Archfriend

            Wow, Timmy, you’re a lunatic. Zoe Quinn took Gjoni to court for defamation and lost because Gjoni had his own personal chatlogs and text messages to back up his claims. Because it became a legal matter, those chatlogs are now a public record and that’s why we can read them today.

            Ralph posted a video that didn’t belong to him and the original owner filed a DMCA to take it down. You don’t see how these are two different situations? I don’t like what Sawyer did, in fact it only confirms he is a sleezebag, but I can recognize this was not a false DMCA because I’m not a dense fucktard who confuses ethics with facts.

          • Timmy Carson

            Wrong he has a gag order on some other material. But you must feel bad to lose a martyr for gamergate that you were just so happy to finally have found. Quinn and Sawyer are both sleaze as is anyone that sticks up for anything that either has done.

          • LongLiveGamerGate

            Are you 2 years old or just a really brain damaged shill?

          • Timmy Carson

            Are you sad that you lost your martyr or just a faggot?

          • LongLiveGamerGate

            No, I am completely disgusted by this guy and I was suspicious of his shtick from the get go, but I also dislike pathetic little shills, do you really think you will achieve anything with this poor attempt? How sad. Anyway, I would rather cut of my left tit then continue arguing a SJW’s little shill pet bitch. Bye!

          • Eagleeye595

            private video which belongs to you is private video. Idgaf if it revealed the killer of JFK. Or it reveals the cure to cancer. If it is mine DMCA is exactly what you’ll get. We’re not talking about guilt here. He was saying DMCA. And as far Steve being guilty or not no1 gives a shit. Everyone fell for it, get over it.

          • Timmy Carson

            People try to justify unethical decisions constantly. In the end it means nothing. I didn’t fall for it, I knew he was full of shit from the moment he tweeted about his “assault” instead of calling the cops. Don’t lump me in with a idiot like you just cause you were dumb enough to get duped.

          • Eagleeye595

            Mate i didn’t fall for it i was told to shut the fuck up and was nearly called a shill when i tried to tell people to check the facts before jumping the gun. Check and see if i sent him any messages to say how sorry i was when it happened. However we were talking about what’s legal and what is not.

          • Timmy Carson

            Lol! Yeah sure you did. Prove it

    • ragething

      false DMCA is why i started this with you matt. this dmca violation is because steve wanted to have at least some evidence to file suit. seems like this has killed any evidence he had. it wasn’t about suppressing anything, just having something to take into court. but hey, it’s much more salacious to think conspiracy.

      • sdemedia

        You’ve made your position clear. Steve is a big boy, I’m sure he is more than capable of looking after himself.

        What has the ‘Steve incidence’ got to do with you closing the GamerGate open house stream?

        Will closing your stream be fair to your audience (the people that supported you)?

        If you are going to close at least do a final stream to explain why you’re doing so and thank your audience for their support.

        • ragething

          done.

    • Benjamin Barber

      Except that its not a false DMCA request.

      Considering I was the person on the phone with him at the time, and Cernovich was the one who originally handled the situation, you seemed to have missed some important points.

      She tried to refund him the $200 he gave her for rent, which means that he has tenancy, and means that he should have faced civil eviction and not trespassing (criminal). It doesn’t matter if you’re a lousy bum or a misogynist, I have had to evict people from my premises, and that is how the law in fact works.

      I have a recording of us calling the PD station to discuss the law with them, who confirmed that there indeed needs to be a court order to evict someone, and then gave that message to the responding officers, along with the laws regarding housing law.

      The responding officer said that he really wasn’t an expert in this situation, I told him unless there is a court order, then he has no right to evict him and she should just give him a 72 hour notice to quit (eviction). Steve decided to leave anyways because she refunded his $200 (paltry) rent payment with a check, and he decided to go stay with someone else for a few days.

      • http://TheRalphRetort.com/ TheRalphRetort.com

        Wrong, genius. It’s still a false DMCA. Steve distributed that video himself, and it’s of a newsworthy event. It’s gonna get restored to YouTube.

        • Benjamin Barber

          Considering youtube has rules about privacy, its not very likely that it’s going to last. I am not aware where the video was distributed, but making idiotic remarks, which seem to overlook the facts of the matter, doesn’t make you look very smart.

          • http://TheRalphRetort.com/ TheRalphRetort.com

            Well, you are the expert on idiocy. Whatever. The video is going back up.

          • Benjamin Barber

            You say that as a blogger, talking to a professional scientist, who took a break from designing electronics for a satellite. Please look up the phrase “dunning-kruger”, and then address the legal specificities, as opposed to using ad-hominem.

          • http://TheRalphRetort.com/ TheRalphRetort.com

            You must be the one who was his “legal advisor?” Lol, I’m done here. When YouTube restores it, I’ll come back and have a chat.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            You hit the nail on the head Ralph. Ben Barber is Steve’s “legal advisor.” When the cops were called and Steve showed the cops the “assault” video, Ben was also on webcam. The cops absolutely did not side with Steve’s story. The video was not proof of anything. Steve and his legal advisor also repeatedly texted and called the GIRL with threats of filing suit, and throwing around irrelevant legal jargon.

          • Benjamin Barber

            Except that we called the police station where the supervisor agreed with us, after what was presumably in their eyes a “he-said/she-said” affair of the verbal rental agreement. but the responding officers admitted (again on video) “im not an expert” after being shown the law.

            Steve decided to leave of his own volition.

            I have been a landlord for several years, and have had the displeasure of having young, emotional, and irresponsible tenants. Fact of the matter is that being homeless sucks, as is having an insufferable person to be around, but the answer to drama is rarely more drama.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            This is now about Steve claiming tenancy at the GIRLS apartment after just meeting for 2 weeks. This isn’t even about Steve crying wolf over being assaulted out of his own home. Wasn’t that the buzz. “Anti-GG attackers assaulted innocent Steve out of his own home! Get him to safety! Help this innocent poor man out.” Now this has turned into a tenancy issue. Steve, have you decided to stop playing the victim card? Now it’s alllllll about claiming tenancy at a home that does not belong to you. Good luck dude.

          • Benjamin Barber

            it has nothing to do with steve claiming anything. If she accepted payment for housing then he is a tenant, if he is a tenant she should have given him 72 hours notice. (A > B) & (B > C) -> (A >C) Using a hypothetical syllogism, Where A > B is Civil Code Section 1962(b), and B > C is Civil Code Section 789.3

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_syllogism
            http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=civ&group=01001-02000&file=1961-1962.7
            http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=civ&group=00001-01000&file=789-793

            This is the difference between ‘bloggers’ and scientists.

          • Reid

            Benjamin Barber. You are clearly misinformed
            and confused. Unfortunately, you are relying on irrelevant law and thus, misapplying
            the law to what appears to be a groundless and illogical argument.

            (It is understandable though because you are not a legitimate “legal consultant/advisor” as you have no ABA number. You are not licensed to practice ANY law in ANY state. HOWEVER! You may do your research and spit out law, but you canNOT practice law by providing ANY legal advice or even represent yourself as Steve’s
            attorney. You are neither court-appointed nor authorized pursuant to any statute. The homeless advocacy centers you mentioned? All authorized. You? None. You have NO legal education, NO degree, NO license, NO authority whatsoever. Also, the fact that you were on video chat with the police and holding yourself out to be
            Steve’s lawyer? HUGE MISTAKE. That’s a misdemeanor. Yes, you make look up B&P s. 6126(a) to confirm. Go ahead, Benjamin Barber).

            You keep on arguing for steve sawyer, which is
            great. Kudos to you and your devotion to the underdog. But the facts all indicate that you are not a witness to the actual “assault” or their oral agreements regarding the “tenancy” or anything else related to the
            incident. You’re just a friend who HEARD
            Steve’s story and rushed to the internet for some research. You are bringing forth landlord/tenant law as if it is relevant to Steve’s situation. The facts as told by both sides (and nothing but the facts) indicate that Steve was dating GIRL and GIRL provided her apt to him for about a total of one week and a half because he became homeless.
            Steve paid $200 as “rent” which he got back and immediately cashed. Thus, there was no payment given — Steve got very lucky with a generous and unassuming OKC date and got gifted with free shelter for a week and half. His gain, her loss. However, even if there
            was a payment, Steve cannot be considered a tenant or even a licensee under landlord/tenant law: Steve is not in the lease. The landlord of the building did not authorize a second tenant to live in… what appears to be a studio? 1 bedroom? I highly doubt GIRL had any authority to act on behalf of the landlord to allow Steve to be considered a tenant. Steve did not establish any tenancy by making a monthly payment as that is the likely time period to
            establish tenancy.. depending on the regulations. (Although since you claim you have been a landlord you should be very well aware of all that or understand that the regulations vary in different areas and types of housing… and so.. since you are NOT GIRL’S landlord, you do NOT manage the property, you have absolutely NO idea what regulations are applicable and NO authority in preaching on the matter). If you hold no merit, a few nice vocabulary and Civil codes will not allow you to manipulate the situation, the police, and anyone else –especially if they are irrelevant and inapplicable.

            CCC s.1962(b), as you rely on:
            In the case of an oral rental agreement, the
            owner, or a person acting on behalf of the owner for the
            receipt of rent or otherwise, shall furnish the tenant, within 15
            days of the agreement, with a written statement containing the
            information required by paragraphs (1), (2), and (3) of subdivision (a).
            Once each calendar year thereafter, upon request by the tenant, the
            owner or owner’s agent shall provide an additional copy of the
            statement to the tenant within 15 days.

            You rely on California Civil Code section 1962(b). Why? For
            purposes of this statute, GIRL is not an owner, nor acting on behalf of the owner for the receipt of rent. There was no payment. There was no written statement evidencing payment and tenancy. Steve wasn’t even there 30 days, let alone 15 days. Steve is not a tenant. It also appears that GIRL can get in trouble for even allowing Steve to “live” there without landlord’s permission, or pursuant to the signed lease by GIRL and landlord. The landlord can sure as hell evict GIRL for breaching a lease, but Steve is a NOBODY in the situation. He can’t be evicted because he’s not a tenant under any relevant CA law!

            He cannot be evicted, he does not have standing to bring an unlawful eviction claim (if any), and cannot seriously consider GIRL to be a landlord, owner, business establishment manager. I’m just leaning
            on the law and the facts and not on any one person’s story and all your arguments are not making sense.

            Oh you mentioned ANTI-SLAPP, Benjamin Barber. Why? Was your
            attorney or Steve’s REAL attorney going to bring that motion? Were YOU trying to? Why even mention it? who is Chilling speech and discouraging public participation? I don’t understand your logic and why you have the need to throw out random law like you really know about it. It makes you even sketchier and this whole matter a complete JOKE. Steve’s homelessness and getting kicked out of the apt by a scared date is not even newsworthy or inviting public discussion. The possible assualt, maybe. But it’s clear there was NONE. using reasonable force to defend others, self, or property is absolutely legal and warranted when a trespasser, NOT a tenant, is posing as a threat and danger to the occupier.

            Stop making this anything more than it really is. it’s just sad. You are seriously lacking credibility and credentials, Benjamin Barber. I am appalled at your groundless audacity, at Steve’s, and hope GIRL has some sense knocked into her in the future. Oh, and care to post your recorded video/phone chat with the police? I think we would all love to hear what you had to say to manipulate the cops into thinking you were an actual attorney, let alone, throwing around any real
            relevant housing laws. You can help out Steve all you want. Just do it right. Be smart about it man. When this all blows over, you’ll see how incredibly daft you look and sound. Good luck to all of you.

          • Benjamin Barber

            Nowhere did I infact represent him as a lawyer, we did the logical thing and called their supervisors, after I showed him the homeless advocacy pamphets. While this Girl could have in fact not been allowed to sublet and been in breech with her lease (which happens all the time). It doesn’t subtract from the fact that she in fact accepted payment for him staying there. Thus he had a reasonable and not criminal reason to be there(under mens rea) had he been able to stay there. If for some reason the landlord of his GIRL wanted him gone, they would have in fact been the one to notify him, otherwise you have situations (like this) where boyfriends get kicked out for no reason other than feelings. The onus is not on him to know the details of her contract with her landlord, but for her to know whether she could or couldn’t accept money for him staying there.

            I heard at the time from the police that there was no threat or danger to the occupier, which is why he was not being arrested for anything at the time, but that he was simply being asked to leave. Being that this is because of disagreements in civil contracts, and not a criminal expectation of burgulary or ‘squatting’ as I think you’re referring to. Thus again it should be handled in a civil and not in fact a criminal way, I don’t know what transpired after that point in time, but that was the situation when I left it.

            I should inform you that I submitted 2 bills to legislature, and have talked to many lawyers, the law isn’t some magic voodoo that you make it out to be. A person is in their right to complain to a police supervisor if they think something is wrong. A person is allowed to say what they think the law says and means. The reason why steve doesn’t have a “Real Attorney” is because the one he asked (Cernovich) is an asshole.

            He claimed “client attorney privilege” while we were on the phone with him & police, who was too busy making fun of MRA’s as paraphrased (“beta males who just want to get laid” and “not willing to do what it takes for systemic change”), meanwhile proclaiming that criticism against him is unfounded because he “only builds people up”. Considering that one of Cernovich’s friends tried to hack into our account for #gameitforward charity, I personally have no respect for the man or anyone listens to his vapid pontifications. Or the pontifications of any such sockpuppets (where’s your BAR number MISTER) that will misrepresent the law to stir up more shit for the sake of LULZ.

          • Timmy Carson

            Look at this fag defending that deadbeat. You want to help Steve? Get him a McDonald’s application.

          • Gregg Braddoch

            “This is the difference between ‘bloggers’ and scientists.”

            Scientists are woefully bad lawyers. In science, everything is about true or false, and reason. In law, its all about which version of two possible interpretations of the law wins – there is no defined, solid and incontrovertible way to interpret any law or ruling – It’s all up to the judge.

          • Benjamin Barber

            Considering I’m expecting some sort of drama filled rant with more adhominem , you should look at robins stream from 2 days ago where I talked to steve. I Told him that he is spoiled and irresponsible, and while nice to have a beer with, not someone i would touch with a 10 foot pole.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            That is a very reasonable thing to say. You can understand by many people would not touch him with a 10 foot pole. He clearly took advantage of a nice girl and he is claiming to be the victim. The police are not experts, and they are correct for disclaiming that. If Steve wants to escalate this and file a suit, he is taking advantage of the system and he will loose. The girlfriends has also gotten in contact with his previous roommate (where cops were involved in kicking him out) and she more than willing to help the case. This is sad that it has to come down to this. The GIRL made a fucked up judgement call. She was unbelievably stupid, naive and trusting to allow a stranger she just met on OKC into her home. She took a leap of faith, and now she is dealing with the consequences of being too trusting. It’s sad that she has to reconsider being a good person and helping other people because of Steve’s manipulation. As his legal advisor Ben, even you don’t want to touch him with a 10 feet pole but you have no problem jumping to his defense.

            As someone who has lost thousands of dollars, almost lost his own home to assholes, and have been in the GIRLS situation…youre speaking a lot for the asshole side.

          • Benjamin Barber

            Again, I really don’t care if he was an SJW or even if SHE was an GG, Last month I saw a sobbing SJW lesbian with blue hair who was assaulted by her ex (also a girl), when approached with a situation where someone who needs help I provide them with it, as long as the help is in fact something merited. Many like to do is take sides in arguments based on feelings, and therefore get upset when I criticize someone on our/their side, and then wonder/spew off spastic-ally when I talk about facts/reason.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            Ben, you are basically saying that assholes like Steve manipulate the system all the time. You have personally experienced it first hand. And now you are helping Steve justify doing it to another girl. Putting emotions aside, just looking at facts, you are supporting a man who is trying to claim tenancy at the GIRLS apartment. This still, does not help Steve’s case. You are just confirming that he is manipulating the blind justice system in his favor. But shit happens all the time. It is what it is.

            With all that legal advisory you are spewing out, can you provide your BAR number? No BAR number? Ok, no problem. As an acting legal advisor, you are required to have a JD and license to practice. Can we look up your credentials?

          • Benjamin Barber

            You seem to misunderstand the purpose of a BAR number, it is so that you have liability insurance to provide legal counsel in court cases, not a barrier from allowing to provide advice like many homeless advocacy centers do, nor is it a barrier from being able to call a police supervisor at the station.

            Your ad hominem argument has ho merits in the actual law or concerns, which were already addressed by a logical formula which you have ignored, if you cannot be bothered to learn logic or the law that is your fault. You’re intelligence and facts are clearly outmatched, so why not just stop with the stupid drama, rather than stirring up bullshit.

          • Benjamin Barber

            your so fucking silly its ridiculous, have you ever heard of ANTI-SLAPP? probably not.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            Can you pretty please send another wiki link? Thanks Ben!

          • Benjamin Barber

            Are you calling that linking to the california state government law registry, and a link to how to perform a math/logic calculation, you fucking moron.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            You’re a fun guy, Ben. I love that you’re getting worked up. Keep it coming. We could all get a good laugh at the rise you’re getting out of this.

            Yes, please! If you could please link the California State Goverment Law Registry and a link to how to perform a math/ logic calculation, that would be very much appreciated! Thanks, Ben! You’re adorbs!

            Hugs & kisses,
            Fucking Moron

          • sdemedia

            Ben, why wouldn’t you touch him with a 10 foot pole?

          • Benjamin Barber

            Because he hasn’t got a lot of wisdom, and has poor time and stress management skills, for which he makes excuses for instead of responsibility for.

          • Mr.Meowgy

            He makes excuses, lies, and plays victim instead of facing reality. Reality is that he is homeless. Instead of making his situation about anti-GG assaults, he should work on getting back on his feet and take responsibility instead of trying to reap the benefits of all this attention he has pulled around this situation. He has been ranting about this assault for weeks now. Yawn. He needs to get his shit together.

          • http://npd.de Vinzenz Stemberg

            it’s really quite sad. He had the perfect opportunity with Radio Nero. Dude could have been his Robin Givens. Now he just a broke-ass hobo once again. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Do not go to jail. Commit sudoku for your shamefur dispray.

          • sdemedia

            Did you speak to the GIRL, if so did she mention when she first ask Steve to leave the apartment?

      • d0x360

        Giving someone $200 doesn’t make you a tenant. You have to establish primary residence in a place for 2 months before any civil order of eviction is needed and that’s the MINIMUM, in some states it’s 6+ months.

        • Benjamin Barber

          Did you read the law, probably not. is it 2 months or is it 6+ months? You’re an idiot.

  • Dehydration

    Goddamn.

  • Hendrik Vanderstijn

    I thought something was fishy when someone has had the terrifying experience of being thrown out of their home; when I saw him on a stream the next day he was relaxed and talking about many very unimportant things. You’d think that you would have nothing else on your mind. You’d think that anyone who’s got their life together in some fashion has a friend to crash at for a day, unless they’ve already used up all generosity that friends would offer.

    This of course, is not a certainty. But it raised a lot of questions about the Tom Sawyer story and the fact that there’s been so little follow up to such an experience just shows me that he felt he had something to hide. After all, had it been true, it would have been a story to parade about on-line, because it would have been a perfect example of the harmful effects of character assassination.

    Very dissapointing Steve. The fact that king of pol confirmed it should have been another red flag.

    • Mr.Meowgy

      “You’d think that anyone who’s got their life together in some fashion has a friend to crash at for a day, unless they’ve already used up all generosity that friends would offer.” thats a very good point. He was desperately looking for another couch to crash at for a day. If he was a good person and had friends, i’m sure any of them would he happy to help a friend out in a tough situation.

    • ragething

      “the most radical thing you can do is believe a woman when she tells you” – Anita Sarkesian.

      • Mr.Meowgy

        Stop quoting Anita. You can’t believe her.

      • Hendrik Vanderstijn

        Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  • beerhammer

    Steve sounds like one of those guys whose life is a mess, he has no stability, financial or otherwise as such needs other people to keep him afloat. I have no doubt he is psychologically unstable. He needs to take a step back, get a real job, ideally outside of LA and California (both state and city are messed up, over priced and extremely hard to survive in without a good career or day job). He needs to also learn to not look to others to give meaning or even stability in his life, first he must focus on getting his own shit in order.

    If the girl he met on OKC reads this, sorry you had to deal with it. Thats life though, stories like this are not all that uncommon and finding quality relationships on OKC is a bit like russian roulette. Its a life and learning experience, laugh it off and learn.

    • Timmy Carson

      Yes poor steve he is such a “victim” here as opposed to a manipulative shrew. Lulz

  • Grim Shady

    Another awesome article Ralph, if people are lashing out at you for reporting hard facts, then they’re people who’re not really in it for the truth. Keep being based, keep reporting any & all such incidents that involve corrupt or manipulative people.

    • ragething

      hard facts without consulting all parties concerned. sure thing. this is why gamergate is LW to me now.

      • pixel

        time for you to get back on the JSA lmfao

      • Grim Shady

        So running with Steve’s side of the story is the only reporting that needs to be done? Not the women he was blaming for assaulting him? Yeah, that’s definitely “both” sides.

  • LongLiveGamerGate

    He is like a reversed SJW, trying to be a professional victim and people took the bait. God dammit why are we all so easily manipulated, especially if it suits our goals?

    • ThatGuy

      Because groups, by their very nature, encourage a psychology of selective cynicism and “Them v Us” which perpetuates unity and growth of the group. GG is quickly going the way of OWS.

      • ragething

        and thats why im out. ralph did this to attack steve for his little buddy who crashed revelabs. watch out for his new website when it comes online. dont forget to check the adds above. remember, hes not in it for the clicks. right?

    • chrimony .

      Plenty of people weren’t taken in. Personally speaking, I asked in the comments to see the video on Ralph’s first story (http://theralphretort.com/media-distortions-cause-discrimination-gamergate/), because I wanted verification and the whole thing smelled exactly like what happened with the SJWs playing a professional victim. Now that I’ve seen the video, it’s a whole lot of nothing, which is about what I expected when it wasn’t posted online in the first place.

  • The Deuce

    Bottom line, this story makes coherent sense, while Steve’s story never did. Particularly silly was the part where he decided to stay at the place where he was supposedly in “danger” (because of two girls, lol!) for several hours and tweet about it. Doesn’t even pass the laugh test.

  • realgamer07

    Stevie just got #SUPERREKT

  • Zyr

    Looks like Steve Tom Sawyer is one messed up, abusive dude.

  • Jim

    What a despicable human being, this guy is unhinged and was actively playing everyone from all sides.

  • Soda Spider

    When I was kicked out of my House by my stepfather, I didn’t post about it I pretty much slept in park & rides and tried to call around for a place to crash.
    He actually picked me up and threw me into a wall I could have gone to the police but I was more concerned about getting out.

  • http://techraptor.net/ Lowestofthekeys

    Wow, just wow.

  • Jess

    I’d love to see the restraining order just to further confirm my suspicions.

  • R.J.

    I have listened (and nothing but) for a long time, and now I believe: The guy is bad news.

    I’m sorry if he is broke and homeless, but I’m even more sorry for the people who cross paths with an emotionally abusive scumbag.

    • ragething

      so listen and believe the girls then. never ones to lie.

      • Mr.Meowgy

        Aside from the video where there was clearly NO ASSAULT, lets look at the fact that Steve repeatedly confirmed that this is GamerGate related. Whether he was innocent in the situation, he straight up lied about the assault being GG related. How did confirm the correlation between GamerGate and the assault?! Exactly–no confirmation…just a lie. If he is lying about GamerGate, how can we believe his side of the story?!

  • David

    And shit like this is why we needed strong leadership to prevent people from exploiting GG and so we could be more coordinated. Instead everyone is doing their own thing and accomplishing nothing while alienating people within GG. Everyone’s running their own stream with 50 people in it instead of setting aside their differences and coming together to accomplish something. Kind of sick of this shit.

    • ragething

      actually there was. the open house. it is now closed. we were getting people together and on message. we did many things and got many people together. however, due to this shit, im done. steve is actually a very nice guy and got bullied out. many above have just swallowed these girls story as they love to have something to be horrified about. click baiters get you once more. but hey. we will try and do something good and the work will speak for itself. goodby gamergate, it was good when you needed help but now, you’re becoming no better than the kneejerk press. listen and believe.

      • David

        I listened to some of those streams. Not all so maybe I missed the good ones. It was too much talking about yourselves and your thoughts on GG and other stuff, not enough brainstorming or organizing to do something to change something.

        You needed not to just do an open house, but get people that run all the different streams and organize something to spread to all the different streams. A plan of action to spread through GG.

        And why are you quitting because of this? Get over it. Some people are going to lie, cheat and manipulate others. We’re not going to have the same beliefs when it comes to politics and social issues. We were united in fighting for better ethics in journalism and the racism and sexism that spawned #notyourshield and all gamers are dealing with due to the SJ journalists.

        If you really cared you would persevere and overcome this trivial BS, but that would require setting your ego aside. I see too many of these streamers and voices in GG unable to do that for the good of the cause, so they can work together and stay focused on the task at hand. There’s always some excuse. I don’t like this guy’s politics, or the way he talks, or some other crap that prevents people from coming together and working towards a common goal.

  • Brit Bong

    Thankyou for reporting on this ralph.

    It’s as important to apply scrutiny to people sympathetic to GG as it is to people who are against it.

  • Marcio #712

    Everything about the dude as always been fishy. Asking for 3000 bucks to do a 6 radio shows when there’s so much free GG contente available and now this. I’m not shocked.

  • CC

    Time the fuck out. 1) that video doxes his ex/friends. So if he wanted to protect THEM how would you propose he do that? 2) STS never ONCE asked for money after being kicked out. He was OFFERED MULTIPLE TIMES and REFUSED ALL OF THEM. I know because I was one of them. I even promoted CBR for that reason, and he said he ONLY wanted support if people thought it was a valid program, not for sympathy $. 3) KoP tried to open a thing to help give STS donations and instantly had to take it down because Jayd3 informed him of STS’ anti-donation stance. 4) Steve also said that they were NOT part of Anti-GG BUT I & OTHERS pointed out that Anti-GG only has ONE major deal: the concept that GG is misogynistic harassment of women to get them out of gaming and therefore wishes to end GG “by any means necessary.” => Ergo, kicking him out, harassing him as in the video, any part of it = Anti-GG. By definition.

    Ralph, I appreciate all the shit you’ve done, but please take the video down for now, in interest of impending court case. STS was told by the police not to make the video public, and has laid low since. Please. I’m asking as nicely as I can think of and if you can tell me a better way to request it, I will. It’s not for STS’ sake, it’s for the interest of integrity.

    Edit: DERP SELF. I see that the girls gave the okay. Still unsure on all of this.

    • Mr.Meowgy

      You dont know what you’re talking about. Your 4th point is completely fabricated like the rest of Steve’s story. He did confirm on his Twitter multiple times that the alleged assault was GG related. One example: Nov 16 at 8:39am “Yep it was about GamerGate. I got assaulted in part because after their ‘research’ they determined I was an ‘internet misogynist'”

  • Linda M

    I would find it a lot easier to believe their side of the story if it wasn’t for this one particular nugget…

    They didn’t call the cops because they were concerned about his mental state. But apparently they didn’t see anything wrong in kicking the guy out in the middle of the night, under coordinated false pretences of a “sleepover”.

    Sorry but that does not add up. They decided to kick him out. They did. They may have been in their right to do so, but they were not displaying any empathy for him in the process.

    • Mr.Meowgy

      The girls assumed that Steve would want to leave on his own if 4 other girls said they were spending the night there. The apartment is a studio- no bedroom, the living room and bedroom are all in the same area. They asked him nicely to leave for the night (assuming he would have another place to crash) so the informing the authorities were not necessary at the moment. When Steve started getting upset and defensive, they strongly encouraged him to call the cops since they promised the GIRL that they would not.

      But let’s look at the holes in Steve’s story:

      1) He does not live there. The apartment his not his home.

      2) He does not pay rent there. He gave her $200 to contribute which he demanded back (along with hush money). Not a single DIME was taken from Steve.

      3) The Girl was not his girlfriend. Steve was not her boyfriend. They JUST met online and he overstayed his welcome of 3 days.

      4) He was never in danger. Even Robin can confirm he was never hurt (ragething • 16 hours ago :even he said they didnt hurt him. but he was very upset as hes a bit of a gentle giant.) He was ranting about this assault and how he desperately needed to get to a “safe” place. He was just upset, and decided to play victim.

      4) And lastly, the biggest hole in Steve’s story: confirming multiple times that the alleged assault was GG related.

      • Benjamin Barber

        1) (incorrect according the law) payment establishes tenancy

        2) (incorrect according to law) payment establishes tenancy

        3) Irrellevant

        4) Homelessness is inherently dangerous

        5) It had to do with his ideology and personal characteristics (unruh)

        I’m not saying he is a Georgia Peach, but the law is the law for a reason, its not based on emotions or regret, and we are a selfish society in general.

        • Mr.Meowgy

          The girl does not have one single dime of “rent.” Tenancy is not established. He has not paid for rent. get your story straight, Ben.

          • Benjamin Barber

            Then what was the payment for? Why was the money refunded? Did you read Civil code 1962(b)?

          • Mr.Meowgy

            Steve offered $200 to help, which he demanded back. She was more than happy to give it back to him because she wanted nothing more to do with him, and simply wanted him out of her apartment. He has the full amount back in his hands. How is that paying rent? What money was put towards rent?! She does not have a single dime of rent money.

          • Benjamin Barber

            Define what he is “helping”, does she have a non profit? or is he “helping” with her balance sheet?

            Or rather if was she the one who needed “help”, and what was she “helping” him for. or was She simply helping him with housing while he was helping with money…..

            Very interesting logic.

        • Zyr

          You’re right, Steve isn’t a “Georgia Peach.” He’s just an asshole fraud who’s more than willing to abuse others. That’s really the point most of us here care about.

          • Benjamin Barber

            As typical both parties are assholes, and both parties abused each other. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle

          • Toastrider

            If you like, I can always pass this around with someone who actually HAS a law degree and let them think on it. Maybe Popehat or Patterico are bored and could use a laugh.

            Or alternately, you could cut your losses.

        • chrimony .

          “(incorrect according the law)”

          The legal aspects of this are an interesting side issue, and extremely pertinent to the parties involved, but as far as GamerGate is concerned, there’s only one thing I’m interested in: Was he forced out of the blue as a result of GamerGate? It seems not.

          He had only recently just moved in with a girl he had just met at an online dating site, said it was for just a few days, and emotionally blackmailed his way to stay longer when she first asked him to leave. Now for sure this girl shouldn’t have let him stay in the first place, shouldn’t have taken money if she didn’t want him to stay longer term, and totally went the wrong way about trying to get him to leave.

          But as you said yourself, the guy is a mess, and by all appearances he wasn’t tossed out because of GamerGate. If many of these facts (so far undisputed) were known at the start, there would have been much less sympathy involved and people wouldn’t have felt duped.

    • Mr.Meowgy

      Also, the cops were never called and they unsuccessfully “kicked him out” that Friday night. He absolutely refused to leave and there was nothing the girlfriends could do if the GIRL insisted on not calling the cops. 2 days later after Steve still refused to leave, thats when the cops were eventually involved. It was the last resort.

      • Linda M

        Doesn’t change the fact that they acted like heartless people and tried to rationalize it as empathy for his mental state.

        Both sides can be shitty people, and women’s “discomfort” is not a trump card, I don’t know why North Americans insist it is. Society wide white knight syndrome?

  • KLLRFRST

    Unfortunately, it looks like STS is #GamerGate’s version of ZQ: someone who lies and manipulates others to benefit themselves and look like the helpless victim.

  • bgo

    those girls are kinda QT3.14’s.

  • Warner Schadenfreude

    Yes, a restraining order is true proof that woman’s side should always believed. Just like a certain who from whoville’s restraining/gag order for an ex boyfriend.

    • Duke togo

      Did you watch the video?

  • DLTyrus

    Disappointed about Steve, he semed like a good guy. Good to know there is vigilance in who gamergate supports though.

  • Fenrir007

    The DMCA looks very bad. His radio silence also looks very bad. The fact that he said before the video had total proof of the assault is also very, very bad considering there is anything but that in it. The restraining order is the icing on the cake.

    At this point, I’m inclined to believe the article and said girls – not based on Listen and Believe, but on all the evidence gathered so far. I’d like to hear his version of this all before reaching a final conclusion, though – but silence can also be a statement of sorts.

  • Koroma

    well shit

  • Wall Meat

    I don’t want to get involved with e-celeb nonsense.

    But you reap what you sow. You always reap what you sow.

  • Jon

    The fact that he didn’t report this shit to the police, and instead, cried to GamerGate about it, sends up a few red flags right away.

    The “report it to the police” and “don’t publicize stuff like this” red flags in particular.

  • Luka

    wheres the rest of the video?

  • André Murgo

    It seems that there was a payment of $200 made by Steve Tom Sawyer to GIRL where GIRL tried to give him it back. It seems that this was omitted in the article.

    Steve acted very poorly on twitter and wrongly linked the case with GamerGate.

    GIRL and friends acted (very) poorly trying to evict/remove Steve from her home.

    Everybody did wrong but Steve tarnished himself online for not being able to control himself, respect others’ wishes and taking responsibility.

  • http://readretro.com/ Markerz

    Steve Tom Sawyer is mentally unstable, a homeless, manipulative megalomaniac. I have copies of death threats he made to persons in my organization. He’s been in and out of trouble with the law for a long time. Avoid this person at all costs.

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