Just when you thought the happenings couldn’t come any quicker, another one slaps you upside the fucking face. I seriously don’t have enough hours in the day to write about them all, recently. Earlier this evening, it was revealed that Brianna Wu’s husband, Frank Wu, had written a a “zoepost” of his own. This was crazy enough, as you’ll see when you read it. But then, his ex-wife came out and responded. Long story short, no fucks were given, and not a single punch was pulled. After reading Allison McBain’s account, I was even more disgusted with Frank Wu than I was before. I didn’t really think that was possible. These are all allegations, but her story rings a lot truer than his does.

Before we get to Allison’s account, here’s Frank Wu’s spiel from September (it was just discovered today):

“The year I spent married to Alison McBain was the more horrific year of hell of my life. Alison McBain is the most despicable, disgusting, deceitful, foul and vile human being I have ever known….
Why did I marry her?
Because I was stupid and in love. And because I was yet unfamiliar with the term Borderline Personality Disorder, wherein a new boyfriend/girlfriend at first acts all loving and wonderful, and then a switch is thrown and they turn into a monster. Yup, that was her.
Why did I stay? Because I didn’t want the shame of getting divorced. Because maybe I thought that I could be like Luke Skywalker, fishing the good out of Darth Vader. Or maybe I thought I could just tough it out.
We met at worldcon in 2003, and since we split (she eventually left me, thank God, telling more lies about me on her way out), and then left the community.
But now it seems like she’s edging back into the sci-fi community, writing, going to conventions again. If she shows up at a convention I’m at, I will be compelled to call the police or inform the convention security of her insane and violently unpredictable behavior. She is dangerous.

I’ll warn you now. If you see her, run far far away. She is fucking evil incarnate.”
As you can see, he’s seems especially preoccupied with her resuming her writing career, almost like he has a vested interest in seeing her not achieve her dreams. He doesn’t say, “If she comes near me, I will call the police.” He threatens to call the authorities just because she dared show up on the same premises as the great Frank Wu. He seems to be holding a major grudge. Also note that he brought her up out of the blue, unprompted. At the beginning he says it’s because of some column he read, but he reveals his true intentions with the ending threat.
After seeing this floating around Twitter earlier, his ex-wife Allison McBain issued a very blunt response. She’s decided she will no longer be intimated by Wu’s psychotic threats:

 

“I have an ex-husband named Frank Wu.  When we married, I was 24 years old and he was 39.  I was young and naive, and he was very manipulative.  That, at least, has not changed.

For years after our divorce, his words rang in my ears – he told me in private that my writing was horrible, that I was no good, that I was shit.  He let his friends talk down to me and call me abusive names.  When I left him, he gave my phone number to his friends so they could call me up and shout abuse at me.  In public, he would be all smiles, but in private was a different story.  You want to talk about scars?  I have a burn mark on my back that I covered up with a tattoo.  I didn’t want to talk about my first marriage, didn’t want to carry that pain with me, so I tried to erase it.

When I was with him, I had just started writing for publication. However, he eroded all of my self-confidence and I stopped writing. For years after our marriage ended, I didn’t write because I didn’t want to be involved in that world and accidentally cross paths with him.

Only recently have I decided that what he did back then doesn’t have to hold me back now.  I decided to write again – that I wouldn’t live in fear of him or what he could say.  I decided this because of my current husband, who has been nothing but supportive and loving of my dreams.

I guess I was wrong about Frank.  He made a very public post about me in September: https://archive.today/69Qmn.  I just discovered it today because people are tweeting it.  I am adding the link here so you can read it.  Because I want you to read the outrageous things he is saying, and to know that what he is saying is BULLSHIT.

I am not going to stoop to his level of verbal abuse and lies.  I am only going to defend myself with facts.  He was 15 years my senior. He was older than me, taller than me, outweighed me.  When I left – and yes, I was the one to leave – he came up to my parents’ house, trying to get me back.  When he wouldn’t leave me alone, I moved across the country to get away from him.  Then he showed up at my sister’s apartment in New York City where I was staying while I got my feet under me – he talked his way past the manager by saying he was my husband, and being very persuasive that I would want to see him – and I opened the door to her apartment  to find him waiting inside.  Let me say, it was not a good surprise to think I was going to a safe space, only to find him waiting for me.  So I cut all ties with my old friends, worried they would give him information about me.  I changed my number because I was getting phone messages from his friends telling me I was a piece of shit – basically repeating everything he had told me for the year we were together.  And then when I had done all that – left my whole life behind – the nightmare, I thought, was over….

I tried to tell [my current husband] that he didn’t know my ex-husband and how vindictive and manipulative he was when we were together.  I was afraid, but I decided to do it anyway, because I had  my husband’s loving support.

Let me ask you – what sort of woman runs away across the country, changes her phone number and cuts ties with all of her friends because SHE is the abuser?  What sort of man publicly posts such outrageous shit about his ex-wife in a public forum?  Yeah, I thought so.

I don’t want to live in fear anymore.  So, Frank Wu, take your lies and shove them.  You can’t manipulate me.  And you can’t hurt me anymore, either.”

As of press time, we’ve yet to hear from Brianna or Frank Wu. I would think Frank would want to make some sort of response to these very serious charges. I have to say, I find Allison pretty credible myself. But I wonder what’s going through Brianna’s mind right now. She’s been a very prominent proponent of “believing women” when they make accusations like this. Does that only mean when the woman in question isn’t calling your husband a massive domestic abuser? I guess we’ll see if Brianna is true to her past public positions.
UPDATE: Frank Wu jumped into the comments section on Allison’s website and immediately began spinning his ass off. I’m not too impressed by his explanation here…

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  1. Ten bucks says We’ll get a “He’s a changed man, you shitlords!” post from a certain someone within the hour.

    1. Not much of a change if the facebook post is anything to go by. He’s almost instantly on the attack “Don’t invite her to things, she’s crazy!”

      1. My guess is that they’re both so busy building their weird little social circles and making war on culture itself they just don’t have time to start attacking each other. Put two SJWs in a room alone together with nobody else to attack and they tear each other apart like rabid dogs.

        Remember when we learned this as soon as they retreated behind the blocker? Nothing but blood, accusations and screams behind that wall now. I’m conviced now that SJWism is a peculiar and virulent form of self reinforcing neurosis.

        If I was a psychologist or an anthropologist I’d make a ten year career at least just studying it and writing papers about it. These people are absolutely fascinating. They’re also terrifying but that’s part of what makes them so interesting.

  2. I calling Brianna’s response as along the lines of “My husband was a victim and I believe him and our home is a safe space, sometimes women lie but you have to be a SJW to be able to tell when…”

    1. I dunno, I feel like he comes off badly either way. He marries this much younger mentally unstable woman and then they break up coz she’s crazy but he says nothing about it for like six years. During this time she marries someone else and has kids. :/

      Seems a bit weird that he cares about speaking out as soon as she comes into contact with a community he is in but not before then and that’s only if he is 100% telling the truth and she is 100% lying.

      1. It’s important not to repeat the accusers (he) narrative *unless* the accused (she) admits the accusation is true – all she appears to be saying is that she looked for emotional support and just didn’t get it. So she is an “*allegedly* unstable women” …. “she’s *allegedly* crazy”. ;o)

        Otherwise totally agree, they simply cannot help themselves from leaking their radioactive toxic history’s leaking all over the place but they are too narcissistic and vainglorious to keep their proverbial traps shut.

    2. I’d say somewhere in the middle. It’s leaning towards Wu being a bit more industrial-sized dickwad, but for the sake of argument, I’d lean towards both of them going full retard at any moment.

      Wu’s current “catch” is anything but sane, so you begin to see the “Van Halen” effect in his choices.

      1. I don’t know them personally, so I’m not going to pick a side. But I’d probably avoid them in real life because they don’t particularly sound like nice people.

    3. Hard to tell but if you go by social justice they have to believe the woman. If they don’t they’re massive hypocrites (again). So when they don’t and inevitably stick up for Frank throw their Listen and Believe in their face.

    4. I don’t think it’s necessary to always take a side.
      They could both be telling some truths alongside lies. It’s not always clear-cut.

      All that really matters is that there are now public allegations against Frank Wu. True or not, it makes anti-GG look yet even more hypocritical.

  3. But now it seems like she’s edging
    back into the sci-fi community, writing, going to conventions again. If
    she shows up at a convention I’m at, I will be compelled to call the
    police or inform the convention security

    This is the most disturbing part of it for me. Even if she is a mentally disturbed person (which seems unlikely as she has a husband of six years and children), Frank Wu is essentially trying to run her out of the sci-fi scene using his reputation as a threat. Although this isn’t unprecedented (SciFi was one of the earlier battles the SJWs won), this makes Wu’s intentions highly suspect, at the least.

      1. Will Shetterly’s book, “How To Create A Social Justice Warrior”, is free right now on Amazon. If you read that, or check out the archives on his website, http://sjwar.blogspot.com/, he lays it all out pretty clearly. The crux is; he mentioned another author (who used their real name online for years) by name, said author cried “DOX”, and the community lost their collective shit. There’s a LOT more to it, and it’s all interesting. He basically outlines the entire SJW creep into the community.

        Also, there’s been massive controversy surrounding the Hugo Awards for a few years now. The general concensus (among so-called “normal” people) is that they’ve been judging based on “inclusiveness” and “political correctness” rather than the actual merits of the work.

          1. The more people who are aware, the better. If you think that’s something, I recommend looking into Marion Zimmer Bradley. It’s an awful story, but SJW’s heads nearly exploded from cognitive dissonance.
            (Laid out in case anyone doesn’t wanna enact the labor)
            MZB is a famous woman fantasy author. After her death, her daughter came forward and revealed that MZB and her husband were MASSIVE PEDOS who enjoyed torturing and sexually abusing children. SJW authors didn’t know what to do when faced with a woman making such accusations against another, famous, well-revered woman.

          2. Considering MZB’s husband is in jail for pedophilia I think you can safely drop the “allegedly” from your post.

          3. Reading her books pretty much lends credence to the suspicion that the daughter is telling the truth. There is just this uncomfortable creepy icky vibe running through them.

      2. I think it’s more that they dominate conferences, push their agenda in awards and have effectively vilified conservative/controversial writers.

        Most of it went under the radar because so many of us are very liberal and it’s easy to not care if a far right bigot is targeted.
        face it: if the SJW had been smarter within gaming and not ENTIRELY shit their bed with the most retarded assumption ever, they’d have won on gaming too.
        Most of us just want to play vidya and don’t mind progressive stuff being promoted.
        They couldn’t stand simply winning, they had to “go after” their opposition because they were egged on by awful people like the literally who’s.

        1. Guess that’s the difference between conservatives and liberals. If a liberal was being slandered with lies, I’d speak up for them.


          1. Really?
            The American mainstream conservative party had ELECTED OFFICIALS and MAJOR SUPPORTERS that maligned and insulted Obama and YEARS without being called on it.
            Not his policies, not his decisions.
            His race, is ethnicity, his creed, his nationality.
            Even shit he did not do (benghazi)
            Conservatism has a GREAT tradition of imprisoning, slandering and libeling opponents. To the point that “freedom of speech” is protected SO fiercely BECAUSE of that attitude.

            Don’t pretend that conservatives are any different than liberals on this.
            It’s simply easier to think the worst of your political opponents, especially when they hold opinions you believe are genuinely harmful.

            Both sides do it, both sides are hypocrites, both sides need to be MADE more honest by opposition and the minority of truly honest proponents on either side of the aisle.
            Maybe you are in that minority with me (I’ve been calling out people on my political “side” since I was in primary school) but lets not pretend such anecdotes apply more widely than individuals.

            I’ll go a step further and ask you for a SINGLE instance of right wing or conservative activism that ACTUALLY calls out other right wingers (the exception being when they “aren’t right wing enough” that shit is the EXACT mirror of SJW going after people for “not being progressive enough”)
            Individuals do it, granted, but lets not pretend it’s more than that.
            Good individuals with integrity that are often NOT rewarded for their bravery.

          2. I am talking about you, and your admitted dismissal because as long as it was conservatives, you were ok with it. I seem to recall a decade of bush bashing that continued years into obama’s presidency, and it wasn’t about his policy either, because let’s find one thing of bush’s obama did differently, shall we? I won’t hold my breath. Bush was an idiot, despite being a yale grad with better grades than anyone he ran against, and I recall several prominent libtards comparing him to a monkey, THAT’S a policy I guess.

            You are no different than the SJWs as it was ok as long as you agreed with the harasser.

            For the record, Bush was terrible, Obama is terrible, and it has nothing to do with his race, it has to do with both of their complete disregard for the constitution.

            I am a libertarian, I want the federal government to leave me the fuck alone, I like how both retard circuses that are the 2 dominant parties act like they are paladins of morality though.

          3. One: I generalised.
            I’ve actually stood up for conservatives for years; I was speaking (arrogantly, if you please) on behalf of the community, which is apathetic on politics at best.

            You were dishonestly misrepresenting it as something that conservatives don’t do, which means you remain full of shit and just refuse to own it, you just do the classic libertarian bit of “I’m totes not a republican guis!!” while never finding yourself bothering to condemn shit when it matters, only when its convenient for your own politics.

            Wanna know how I know:
            Gamergate is FILLED with lefties.
            Being critical of left wing media.
            Fucking *Bill Clinton* has come out to condemn identity politics.
            That would be like Reagan declaring that deregulation isn’t always the solution or some shit.

            You seem to want to ENTIRELY avoid how A LOT of “libertarians” and republicans are critical of Obama *entirely* based on his identity, perceived politics and things he has no control over.
            I don’t think Obama was great either.
            He’s a conservative through and through.
            I agree that both parties act like morons (even over here in the UK, there’s too much posturing not enough fuckin merit) but that’s not what you said.
            You declared, pretty fucking explicitly, that conservatives would NEVER behave like this, and totally stand up for “liberals” that were wrongly attacked.
            Except that’s utterly fuckin contemptuous as a claim.

          4. Maybe you can’t read, I said I’d not think it was ok fora libtard to be unfairly attacked, you said you were ok with it because it was conservatives being targeted. Spin it all you want lefty, your words condemn you.

            And actually I make it a rule that I don’t talk American politics with non Americans. You don’t have skin in the game, you try to apply your cultural views to ours, and frankly, if other countries were doing so great, there’d be more than one superpower.

        2. The problem is far to many of you let them convince you that “far right” and “bigot” are synonomous. Just as they are now trying to teach you that “gamer” and “misogynist” are. And they do this to prevent you from ever actually examining any opinion or world view other than the one they wish to give you. They teach you to hate someone without ever knowing what their ideas are or who they are. Whereas the evil bigoted conservatives spend their time examining and arguing against liberal ideas not people. No hatred involved. Remind me again how it is that bigotry works? Is it hatred for who someone is? Or dislike of what they are actually saying? And which group sounds like the real biggots?

          1. Exactly. I think Pakman’s a pretty cool and smart guy, and the attacks against him were total bullshit, but outside of his GG pieces, I disagree with a lot of his other videos. But I don’t think it’s because he’s an idiot, he just has different priorities than me. I’ve yet to see anyone on the net that doesn’t run their red or blue flag up the pole and begin attacking anyone that identifies as something else, so IMO, anyone arguing politics online is pretty much a biased moron.

          2. I’ve always had a good mix of friends, politically speaking.
            Case in point: I am VERY critical of UKIP. I despise many of their politicians and much of their policy, and yet I am prepared to quite openly agree with them when they make valid points, concede that they are an important populist voice that needs to be heard AND that many UKIP supporters are good people motivated by the best of reasons.

            I absolutely agree that too often partisan politics becomes more about dehumanising opponents rather than arguing the merits of policy.
            A sad indictment of the voting public 😛 (or at the very least those that have learned how best to manipulate them)

      3. When they disinvited Elizabeth Moon as guest speaker from a feminist sci-fi conference because of her wrongthink about Islam.

    1. From personal experience, I don’t feel that you can consistently justify mental stability via marriage or children. For a more relevant example, look at how long Brianna Wu has been married to Frank Wu.

      1. you also can’t deny it. how your kids grow up and what they turn into at least somewhat correlates to your mental stability. the wu’s will not be able to have kids for a long time since the only means by which they can is adoption and only a mentally deranged person would adopt or allow adoption of a child into a household that is apparently under constant threat of harmful violence. Wu’s are psychos, plain and simple.

    2. That’s right. Frank Wu is part of a wide-ranging Internet conspiracy whereby privileged males are trying to drive female authors out of Science Fiction.

    3. Exactly. It would be different if he had some sort of restraining order against her for past verified acts. (He should ask Brianna about those, supposedly they have some experience with them) but this reeks of a manipulative and abusive actto libel his ex wife.

  4. Wait, are we gonna see misogynist gamergate side with a woman and feminist anti gamergate side with a man in a domestic abuse dispute?

    1. That would be so weird 😀
      I think there’s a limit to what most SJWs stretch their ideology to to create a “safe” space though. Wu seems to have been falling out of favour a bit too.

      1. Honestly I noticed a lot of the anti’s stopped promoting Wu quite a while ago. They tolerate her but I think even many of them can see how opportunistic she is.

        1. I think part of what is scaring the SJW away from Wu was the fallout between her and Chloe Sagal. That convo made Briana look like someone more concerned with money and attention than helping a trans person in need. This will most likely fracture her image with the SJWs even further.

        2. Actually, I think they’re just jealous because Wu is having more success than most of them. The hard left always turns on itself in the end.

      2. “Wu seems to have been falling out of favour” does this mean we can stop hearing about her soon :D. o my god i’m giddy like a school girl :3.

  5. If you shorten a quote use […] instead of just …, that’s far more clear and basically journalistic industry standard. As it is currently, I wouldn’t have noticed without going to the source.

  6. I’m gonna sit on the fence until more evidence comes to light. As much as I want to straight up agree with the article and support this ex-wife, I personally don’t know much of her aside of what I just read here. Even though everyone on the Anti-gg side are a bunch of anal seepage-sucking lowlifes not worthy of licking the bottoms of my dog shit-encrusted shoes, I’m not gonna unduly hammer on people because of what some random person on the internet says, even if they do have a solid connection to the person in question.

    Just keeping us honest.

  7. Poor bastard. He married a crazy woman the first time, and then he married an even crazier woman the second time.

  8. His tales of abuse is one of the most beta things I’ve ever heard. That’s his definitive of evil? He got bit once and kicked out the house once and his feelings a bit hurt. No police no charges no anything. The relationship didn’t work cause he probably needed someone to peg him.

  9. I believe the ex-wife seriously his whole facebook blog seemed aimed at ruining her chance at a career playing on the sympathy of others…

    Sounds an awfull lot like what these SJW types try to do to anyone they dislike, him and Brianna deserve eachother and his ex-wife deserves alot better!

  10. He sounds very much like a manipulative abuser here. For him to post this kind of shit at his age is unconscionable. Lots of us have exes we can tell lots of stories about. Since most of us are older than 15 we don’t talk shit about them publicly, take our licks and move on. Relationships are a learning process and shit happens.

    The kindest possible interpretation to him is to pretend he’s autistic.Calling people with mental illness, even those with cluster B disorders, evil shows how vastly immature, if not outright idiotic you are. Dear moron – you didn’t marry Hitler and she’s not in court facing neglect or abuse charges regarding her children so no, she isn’t evil. You ridiculously spiteful puffed up piece of human waste.

    I think we need bumper stickers with “I believe you Allison” to copy those regarding Anita Hill back in the day. Nothing like destroying sjws using their own methodologies.

  11. Edit: Nvm lol, misread article. Thought the rebuttal to frank came from Wu herself and they had become estranged since the last time I heard about Frank.

    I really shouldn’t post while tired.

  12. GamerGate has more bizarre twists than day time TV soap dramas.

    Sad to see Frank is a bit creepy, but it probably explains a bit as Brianna seems to be a few cards short of a deck herself. How does the saying go, there is someone perfect for you out there, somewhere.

    I had once asked Brianna if she would listen and believe if someone made up charges against Frank, she didn’t reply to that. Frank has put her in a bit of a pickle as Brianna’s mantra has been to believe the woman whatever the allegation.

  13. I noticed he accused her of trying to take credit for his achievements, but then says HE introduced her to penned, HE asked judges to consider her, HE is the one taking credit for anothers work. Typical projection.

  14. Oh, I bet NOW the SJWs going to back a dude who called out an abusive ex?

    I’m going to enjoy watching the mental gymnastics that are guaranteed to ensue.

    GamerGate to SJWs: You’re going to Listen and Believe the woman over her “jilted ex-boyfriend”, right? RIGHT?

    “But..but…his situation…and Eron’s…and…not…and….” *smoke shoots out of SJW ears*

  15. A key part of being a true SJW is being a giant hypocrite . Just like Shanley preaches diversity while hating negros, Wu has to attack others as abusers when he is the abuser himself. He is essentially Zoe Quinn but so fucking stupid he married a man.

  16. Heh heh, I just left the following comment in response to Frank’s response:
    ——————————————————————-
    The truth probably lies in the middle somewhere.

    So you’re outright telling us that you didn’t tell the truth now? That’s quite a backpedal!

    Neither of us is the same person we were when we were together.

    Peace to your family and good luck with your writing.

    Uh huh, right. Let’s compare this with what you wrote the other day: “But now it seems like she’s edging back into the sci-fi community, writing, going to conventions again. If she shows up at a convention I’m at, I will be compelled to call the police or inform the convention security of her insane and violently unpredictable behavior. She is dangerous.

    I’ll warn you now. If you see her, run far far away. She is fucking evil incarnate.”

    So, in two days you go from essentially “Her return to sci-fi needs to be destroyed and don’t give her the time of day because she’s pure dangerous evil” to basically “Hey, we’re all good people here! Hope you have a good career!”

    You disingenuous ass. You realize there may be unexpected consequences to your smear, and suddenly you start spinning and ingratiating. All you’ve done is validate what she said about how manipulative you are.

  17. This comes out just as I was thinking that Wu needs an abusive husband to function properly and Frank is all smiles and girly, can’t whip her into shape and that’s why she’s in a permanent PMS on twitter.

    I can’t fully trust his ex-wife, but I really want him to be a piece of shit. I’ll sit and watch this fold out, it has got to be fun.

  18. It takes two to tango. They both sound like they have issues.
    At least this somewhat explains why mister multi award-winner hangs out with LWu.

  19. Based on the two different stories, I have to say that Allison sounds more credible for two main reasons.

    1.) Frank threatens Allison toward the end. He calls her names, and acts like a dick head. She is calm and collected. She gives her perspective clearly and doesn’t resort to silly name-calling. So which account sounds a bit more credible? I’m gonna go with the person who keeps a level head.

    2.) This post from Frank Wu came out of nowhere in September. And what happened in October? Brianna accused GG of harassing her and was catapulted to fame. It seems a bit convenient that these two events happened so close together. Now this is only speculation, of course, but what if Frank posting this story out of nowhere was an unsuccessful attempt at getting fame for himself and Brianna? Maybe his post was supposed to be the start of their professional victim career, but it fell through so Brianna had to resort to using GG as their catapult. Just a thought.

    Of course, this is just my opinion, and I will not make a judgement one way or the other without more evidence, but with what we have so far, Allison seems more credible. Here’s hoping more evidence will surface so we can have a clearer picture.

  20. Oh, nice to see Brianna post a comment that we should leave Frank alone and he doesn’t deserve it because he is a nice guy.

    What about all the innocent nice GG people you shit on daily? Where is your compassion?

  21. Clearly Frank is just a “jilted ex” who wrote a terrible screed because he is abusive and trying to cover it all up after the fact.

    After all, isn’t that exactly what the press ran with about Eron Gjoni, whose story at least has had multiple people come forward since to back up as factual? But that’s not important. What’s important is that a woman has made definitive statements, no one is allowed to disagree with her views, and therefore Frank Wu is a horrible person.

    Sic semper tyrannis.

  22. I don’t want to badmouth Wu’s husband because I think it’s a low blow to go after people’s family, but damn if he doesn’t look like an asshole right now if this story is true.

  23. I don’t even think it is fair to call Frank’s post a “zoepost” because at least Eron’s account was admitted by Quinn, and Eron didn’t publish her personal contact info or anything either.

    Again, it’s funny to see Anti-GG post these sorts of allegations about Eron, only to later find out that one of their own has done EXACTLY what they falsely accuse Eron of having done.

  24. let see,
    one person runs away changes her whole life, finds a person who loves them and has kids together
    other person chases after the first one, finds a person who can mutually benefit from being psychos together incapable of ever having children
    who to trust, gee I’m not sure.

    1. incapable of ever having children

      “Incapable of having children” part isn’t important, it’s the “psycho” part that’s important.

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