I’ve been taking it slow this week due to illness, but I had to jump up today and write a couple things. The first thing I wanted to touch upon was the Boston Magazine feature on Eron Gjoni and Zoe Quinn from a day or two ago. I was going to let it slide due to my illness, but the more I re-read it, the sicker it makes me. That’s hard to do, considering how under the weather I’ve been lately. But somehow Five Guys and her media enablers manage to get it done. First off, go read the insanely terrible article if you haven’t already. It really is a doozy. I’m having trouble understanding why Eron keep sitting down with reporters, to be honest with you. Because I can’t think of one that’s treated him fairly throughout this entire ordeal:
Gjoni can be relentless that way. And in others. He maintains incessant eye contact from behind a tangle of dark, wavy hair. He is intensely focused. Just ask Zoe Quinn, the object of his unwanted obsession…
Gjoni has brown eyes and a skeletal 6-foot-1 frame, and speaks in a matter-of-fact, deadpan monotone. His friends describe him as “extremely methodical,” “a very intellectual person with semi-decent people skills,” insular, rational, and almost preternaturally calm. Benjamin Hitov, a childhood friend and fellow programmer, told me he once beat Gjoni in the ninja fighter game Dead or Alive “100 times in a row, and he didn’t change his expression once.”
In case you can’t tell, the reporter is trying to make Eron look like a psychopath. There are several more examples like this throughout the piece, and Zoe piles on plenty of times as well. I just don’t see the benefit of talking to these scumbags, but I guess that’s easier said than done. It’s hard to turn down requests like these, and reporters work overtime to try to gain your trust.
Here’s Eron, in his own words, reacting to the interview (PART 1, PART 2):
The article quotes me of course (sparingly), but, often in contexts that allow the author to pretend I’ve said or done the exact opposite of what I’ve actually said or done.
Now I know what you’re thinking. “Why the hell would you still trust journalists”
And the answer to that is: I don’t, really. I’ve already learned to approach with caution.
The problem, is that they always seem more willing to misrepresent their intentions and integrity than I am to presume malice on either their part, or their editor’s. And I mean that in the functional sense. The more cautious I become, the more they misrepresent…
Of note in the previous post, was that Zak seemed to think the first date between me and my ex happened at Veggie Galaxy. But he also thought the first date happened at a dive bar.
We might perhaps excuse this as shoddy writing.
Or maybe a subtle attempt at dramatizing my choice of venue for the interview, so as to play up the “obsession” angle (remember, part 1 made the article into a drinking game on this premise).
It looks like this was a setup from the beginning, although it was a well-concealed one. I think this should be a lesson for any other prominent figures in the cause looking to talk to the media. Unless you have some type of final cut, or creative input, then it will always be a fail talking to these duplicitous bastards. Plus, there’s no telling what lies Zoe told them off the record. The only way to win is not to play. Sure, they’ll still make you look bad, but at least they won’t have you helping them.
None of this is to blame Eron. As I said at the start, they likely would have gotten me too. But just hold this out as a lesson for the future. The media wants to make us look bad at all costs, and lying is not something they’re ashamed of doing. Do interviews with the friendly, pro-GamerGate press. Mainstream journos can’t be trusted in any way, shape, or form.
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Hope you get better soon. I am curious as to why Quinn wants all this back in the public domain again?
Doesn’t make sense.
She was old news.
Maybe that was the problem? Donations drying up? But as I’ve said elsewhere, she has a rich boyfriend so doesn’t need the Patreon donations right?
Is it an attention thing?
Anyway good call on “not playing”, but on the other hand keeping SJW’s pinned down in a trench war over this old issue at least stretches their resources and keeps them from expanding out in other directions. They already trashed our image so we have nothing to lose from any more smears. So let them smear us more, better us than someone else. We can take it.
Her $3000 dog and pony show in DC didn’t do jack shit, so she went back to the well and dredged up the Eron & the zoe post to keep her name in the news and her Patreon donations rolling in.
I have written about this “As disgusting as Zoe is, she would be easily dismissed but she can’t have it. She has to keep throwing herself at us like a drunken, spurned, infatuated girl. clinging desperately to Gamergate wailing at us not to leave her. She has to call us harassers and blame us for unproven threats and doxxing or whatever crime we are supposed to have committed (no doubt collectively and unison – as part of underhanded shady council meetings).”
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sm0iek?new_post=true
Good read.
You say exactly what I have said.
Instead of following the advice of law enforcement and assisting them in finding out who sent the threats, she instead went on a whirlwind media tour inciting hatred and smearing millions of innocent gamers when there was not one shred of evidence indicating who was actually involved.
No evidence at all.
I mean even evidence showing that 1% or 10% of Gamers or GG hashtag users were involved wouldn’t have justified the mass-smear campaign. But she and the authorities never even had that.
They had zilch but she couldn’t resist going to the press and shooting her mouth off about innocent people. The journalists should shoulder 90% of the blame there. There is no shortage of crazies going to Journo’s with stories of flying saucers and god knows what else. It is the journo’s job to investigate and substantiate stories before running them.
She’s a narcissist with an emotional abuser complex. **THIS IS HER DRUG. SHE NEEDS THIS DRAMA LIKE A FIX.**
I know this because TL;DR my abuser was exactly the same. Fucking. Way. Every time I thought I could escape shit by being closed mouthed about it? No. No….. You can’t. Because she WILL purposely USE that to her advantage to create the fix she NEEDS and CRAVES.
Why the press is ENABLING her? Is because they are spineless cowards who can’t bear to be seen as “picking on a girl.” Literally. They are lower than jellyfish and slugs. They are like if jellyfish and slugs devolved to amoeba and still had less fortifying membranes in their nucleus.
Read the ZoePost with this: https://shrink4men.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/10-signs-your-girlfriend-or-wife-is-an-emotional-bully/ and if you use it as a drinking game, just try not to wind up in the ER. I dare you.
She’s a manipulative narcissist. If you haven’t watched the Understanding the Zoe Post videos, you really should.
EDIT: They’re on Youtube.
Honestly, I have never cared about Eron in all this. He got cucked. You got my sympathies but he’s not the first & won’t be the last. Conversely, Zoe’s a big shot to talk shit about a guy under a restraining order. Her cowardice is epic.
I still don’t understand how his lawyer hasn’t brought all this up to the judge to get the gag/restraining order removed. This is clear bullshit.
Its generally a matter of money. Whichever lawyer is more expensive usually wins.
true that.
…the most hilarious part of th’ article (well, th’ only part maybe) was were it referred to “Alex Lifshitz, her new new boyfriend, shorter, more muscular…”
…top fucking keks…especially if you’ve seen th’ vid of him struggling to snap th’ GTA disc…
I think the funniest thing about it was how he admits to have never read the zoe post.
,,,yeah,,,i call bullshit on that one,,,you know he’s snuck off to th’ terlet in th’ middle of th’ night, read it on th’ commode muffling his weeps,,,blooo, uh-blooo, bloooooo…
It’s pretty obvious that cuckboy didn’t read it, or he would have ran away from that psycho hose beast months ago.
How is Erin or Alexs’ physical appearance at all relative to the article?
I mean BESIDES trying to make Erin out to to be a psycopath and Alex a hero?
,,,didnt mention Eron in my comment,,,not about appearance either,,,referring to someone as muscular who cant snap a computer disc is th’ funny part…yer welcome…
Sorry, I wasn’t clear in my wording.
I was wondering why the reporter/article had to mention appearance – doesn’t seem particularly relevant to me.
Apologizes for the poor wording.
No problem at all. Thanks for clearing that up….i was puzzled , not offended.
Apparently Eron’s caved and he’s gonna charge Quinn with slander and libel, this rumour as far as I know, but I hope it’s true
I hope he does. According to his responses on his Tumblr, most of what he said what supposed to be off the record, and a lot of his quotes were wildly taken out of context. Not to mention a lot of the stuff that Eron showed the reporter to prove his case (like their Facebook chatlogs) were purposely left out by the reporter. This was nothing more than a smear piece, with not a hint of fairness or objectivity at all.
I couldn’t finish the fucking thing. It just irritated me that much. Everything just screamed misrepresentation. The picture, the quotes, the local, every fucking detail
I think one of the things that really showed how far the writer was trying to paint Eron as a “stalker” is when Eron suggested to meet at a vegan restaurant. The writer makes the assumption that since Eron met Quinn there, that means that Eron choice to eat there is a “sign” that he’s still “obsessed” with her.
WTF? So if I had an ex boyfriend that I met at McDonalds, and I still get Big Macs from there, that means I fish through my ex’s trash and stand outside his windows at night? That’s quite a leap to make, especially from someone without any credentials in psychology.
It kinda fell through for me when the journo described him as having an intense stare, so what? He makes eye contact, man seems wear his heart upon his sleeve, so what again? I mean when the journo made that out to be bad, I was like, bitch you got something to hide
the man sometimes looks into your eyes for too long as well as not making eye contact at the same time. Clearly evil.
I’ve always believed that maintaining eye contact with people you’re speaking with is a GOOD thing. It tells them (non-verbally) that you’re giving them your full attention.
The “reporter” is an idiot.
If that’s true and they used off-the-record remarks.. well… the whole thing is character assassination and trail by press at it’s finest. Even if he were to take her legally to task he’d have a hard time of it now because they’ve built such a huge wall of half-truths and BS around her.
When all of this is over and we have won, I hope we will also help Eron to save his character.
Time will vindicate Eron, there besides, I heard he’s gonna drag Zoe through the courts
I wrote this with no real research or interviews in one sitting and I humbly think it shit all over their hit piece http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sm0iek?new_post=true
Funny how this was written up in Boston Magazine, where Ms. Valkenburg is known to reside (This is already well known, and I didn’t give specific details, so anyone that wants to call this doxxing can fuck off). I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some deep connections between her and the writer of this hit piece (or someone that writes his paychecks).
NVM
I wonder how many dicks ZQ has promised to suck to get this fare.
This was really very disgusting they wonder why we are still here yet proving how terrible the state of journalism is over and over…
Disgraceful. Asking Gjoni to meet and clear the air only to paint him in such a skewed manner is gutter journalism.
Benevolent sexism ensures that no matter how much evidence there is of Quinn’s abuse and manipulation, people will ignore it.
I hope they get sued because this is bullshit. Man the amount of power this woman has is absurd. She must be really good under the table because that is the only explanation.
the sad truth about most of today’s journalists is that they write editorials. they go into each and every story with a position already in mind and their cognitive bias results in the shoddy state of reporting we have all experienced.
what you have to do is a variation of what radio host Hugh Hewitt does. He insists that any interview he does be recorded or during his radio show. He does this so there is a full record of his comments. Anyone in GamerGate needs to the same: Insist on recording the conversation. If they refuse, then you know they had no interest in an honest piece. You have to have the full record, Only way to combat the lies and twisting of words.
Finally caught up on some much needed reading and frankly I’m not surprised by the article. It’s funny how people like saying things like “you can’t trust the media” and yet jump on every bullshit bandwagon narrative like a dog humps legs (I couldn’t resist). It’s no surprise that women like Zoe Quinn (if you can call her that) remain in the public eye for so long.
She sells.
She is marketable.
She is also a tool. A shield. And overall a detestable person based on a couple accounts.
If people want to defend her then they need to acknowledge her faults also. Of course that won’t happen which is where I will call bullshit because in any other profession once it got out she screwed her way to the top she would have been out on the street with no money or home. She is lucky she found herself in the company of “progressives” who seem like the most regressive bunch.
And this is where journalism comes into play. It is coming to the point that most “journalism” is ass kissing for sales.
This ladies and gentlemen should not be tolerated. Journalism is supposed to be about exposing truths and telling all sides of the story and not about self-fulfilling propaganda. Propaganda should be the thing you expect the government to shove down your throat. If you defend unethical journalism then you are part of the problem: the willingness to allow other people to do the thinking for you.
If being a mindless drone is up your alley then by all means keep saying it’s about harassment because the moment you encounter true harassment you will find just how different it is when you can’t sleep at night.
I’m done talking shit for one night. Ya’ll done a better job explaining everything.
That’s Quinn? She’s been using Rander Harpi’s shampoo.
My only criticism of Eron is that he has to have been either warped or desperate. Or insufficiently psychotic.
And he should have talked to a lawyer and have them do the legal stuff first. I hate lawyers, but if you are being forced to play the game, best to have someone who knows the field of play.
Are her 15 almost over? Maybe he has bad taste in girlfriends, maybe?
Also what is with the blue eyeliner? Retro from the early ’60s?